Recent comments by The99Percent
Rob Dawg wrote:
I saw the second hit live and having some small acquaintance with engineering type stuff my immediate reaction was "that is not a survivable impact." The core structure was damaged by impact and then the remaining structural steel was weakened by heat. Gravity is a bitch.
But how can the lower floors fall at near free fall speeds when it wasn't weakened by heat. Also, most of the upper floors pulverized leaving less force to excert downwards.
dilbert dogbert wrote:
Even the retired chief Electrical Engineer for the WTC is an expert in structural engineering.
The retired chief Electrical Engineer for the WTC was commenting that he was very familiar with the elevator shaft where the central columns were. And because the WTC buildings were going through a major elevator maintenance, it is possible for somebody to place demolition devices or paint thermite on the central supporting column via the elevator shafts.
dilbert dogbert wrote:
fact that steel can not melt with jet fuel alone.
Do a bit of engineering research. What temp does fuel air burn at? What length of time did the fuel and building components burn? At what temperature does steel loose half its strength? Buckling of members depends on modulus of elasticity so at what temperature does steel loose half its modulus? Don't think you have to melt steel. Investigate the connections between the outer shell of the buildings and the floor members. Lots of interesting things to look into. The designer of the building structure said the building would collapse. Is he in on the con?
These experts say that its possible for the floor to collapse because the steel has bent. However, since the concrete and most of the building material is pulverizing as the floor starts to collapse, there is not enough downward force to create a pancaking effect all they way down to ground floor at near freefall speed. Especially since the metal beams in the lower floors were not weakened by heat.
I haven't been a 911 conspiracy theorist until I saw this video. But all these experts with engineering degrees pointing out the scientific evidence in this video has made me jump the fence.
Comrade Janošik wrote:
I'll give 99er, "deceitful", to what end, who knows.
The crisis was aptly used afterwards to be sure, but that's the way the wolves work.
Operation Northwood was concieved in 1962. The plan was to create a false flag event including blowing up of airliners and other acts of terrorism around the country and blame it on Cuba. This will cause the public to be so angry with Cuba that the US military could launch an invasion of Cuba. The plan was approved by all the Joint Chief of Staff. It only needed the signature of the President for it to be implemented. JFK refused to sign. It was only declassified in 1997 as part of the JFK Assassination Records Review Board.
Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 
Operation Northwoods was a series of false-flag proposals that originated within the United States government in 1962. The proposals called for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or other operatives, to commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities and elsewhere. These acts of terrorism were to be blamed on Cuba in order to create public support for a war against that nation, which had recently become communist under Fidel Castro.[2] One part of Operation Northwoods was to "develop a Communist Cuban terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Florida cities and even in Washington."
Operation Northwoods proposals included hijackings and bombings followed by the introduction of phony evidence that would implicate the Cuban government. It stated:
"The desired resultant from the execution of this plan would be to place the United States in the apparent position of suffering defensible grievances from a rash and irresponsible government of Cuba and to develop an international image of a Cuban threat to peace in the Western Hemisphere."
Several other proposals were included within Operation Northwoods, including real or simulated actions against various U.S. military and civilian targets. The plan was drafted by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer and sent to the Secretary of Defense. Although part of the U.S. government's Cuban Project anti-communist initiative, Operation Northwoods was never officially accepted; it was authored by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy.
bearly wrote:
can't we accept the possibility that they have been deceitful about the 911 disaster?
you're nutz. The government couldn't manage to conceal a conspiracy of 2 participants.
You may argue policies contribute greatly to the tragedy, but there's no winning when trying to deal with the koran--thumpers either way.
What about the Manhattan project during World War 2. Over 100,000 people worked on that and they kept it a secret before they detonated over Hiroshima in 1945.
Cinco-X wrote:
That is not what I said. Try it this way: How do you make thermite?
Aluminum and iron oxide (rusted iron) IIRC
In the video, these scientist who examine the thermite from the dust of the WTC claim that they are seeing microscopic thermite which could have originated from a weapon..
Eric wrote:
Explain to me why so many experts with engineering and science degrees
There's always people on the wrong end of the bell curve.
Most of us in the forum accept the fact that the government has deceived us about the economy. Most of us realize that most of the government's wrong doings in the past few years are hidden from the general public. If we accept this fact, whey can't we accept the possibility that they have been deceitful about the 911 disaster?
JP wrote:
I'd focus on the "thermite evidence". That should tell you everything you need to know
Exactly. Thermite evidence and the melting of steel is like the smoking gun. Another suspiscious fact is that all the WTC debris was quickly hauled off to China for recycling purposes. They didn't try to save any metal beams for investigation purposes.
traderwalt wrote:
In the documentary aired by PBS, IIRC, engineers and architects agreed that the building was supported in large part by the aluminium outer shell and not by steel or cement columns that were too heavy to support over 100 plus stories. Aluminium probably can catch fire by jet fuel ignition and there was a lot of aluminium in the upper stories.
In the video, a chemical engineer claims that there video showing red molten metal spewing out of the building before the collapse (they also show this video) and he says that its not molten aluminum because molten aluminun would be white.
ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:
2 hr documentary where over 1600 architects and engineers claim that the WTC buildings were brought down by demolition.
I'll entertain notions about building seven, but the rest of it I put in almost the same category as the sh!t this guy says on Ancient Aliens.
Explain to me why so many experts with engineering and science degrees are convinced that the buildings was brought down by demolition. Even the retired chief Electrical Engineer for the WTC is convinced that the buildings was brought down demolition.
Yancey Ward wrote:
2 hr documentary where over 1600 architects and engineers claim that the WTC buildings were brought down by demolition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK86S-HZxTE
What are the chances that the American people will wake up this year and demand a new investigation into 911?I suggest you look for the documentary where it was proven that aliens took the towers down.
How do you discount the claims of 1600 experts many with PHD in engineering and science fields that the towers were brought down by demolition. In this documentary, they cite many physical evidence including evidence of thermite and the fact that steel can not melt with jet fuel alone.
2 hr documentary where over 1600 architects and engineers claim that the WTC buildings were brought down by demolition.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK86S-HZxTE
What are the chances that the American people will wake up this year and demand a new investigation into 911?
TJ and The Bear wrote:
Is the game any good?
I liked it.
I think I'll go ahead and get Home Front. Do you think the IRS will allow me to deducted it has training for the day when our military takes over the streets of America because of NDAA 2012?
By the way check out this video of American kids pledging allegance to Kim Jong Un and liberating the American Labor Camp.
YouTube - Homefront Easter Egg - Classroom pledge
YouTube - HomeFront : American Labor Camp (HD)
TJ and The Bear wrote:
Seriously... one of my XBOX FPS games is HomeFront; ever see the setup for that one? It starts with the death of Kim Jong Il and gets very interesting shortly thereafter. Very plausible, too
Yes. It is very plausible. Especially the story about the collapse of the US Dollar and unification of North and South Korea. I'm going to have to play this game. Is the game any good?
ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:
So back to my original questions, where can I move to?
Mars is amazing!
It's a GLOBAL plantation. Its owners will be protected at all costs; economic, social, environmental, human...
No Mars is no good. I saw Total Recall. Arnold is already there. I'm telling you the rulling elites are everywhere.
ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:
I think that is accurate and, in my simple mind, kinda wraps it up.
Kobayashi Maru, Captain?
Yes, we are in a no win situation. Especially with the grips of government getting tighter when NDAA and SOPA passes. Unless we move to another country. So back to my original questions, where can I move to?
patientrenter wrote:
Don't you know that elites want Obama to win a 2nd term so they've made sure only bozos are running for the Republican nomination.
I wouldn't agree. The wealthy financial services community probably favors Democrats, but they are just as happy to see Republicans win. Whichever of the two parties wins, the elite of financial services will have their own people running the Fed and the Treasury and the key Congressional committees. Bernanke+Geithner = Greenspan+Paulson, etc.
Yes the ruling elite owns both parties but I would argue that they want Obama to win because most people still believe that he is working for the working class. Plus, he is a great speaker and a liar and him being an African American is just the frosting on the cake. Just look at the amount of money donated by the financial sector for Obama's campaign for '08 and '12. I rest my case.
Tom in AZ wrote:
volker the viking wrote:
without a doubt, the republican party is being led by the dumbest bunch of pasty faced nimrods in the history of politics
Don't you know that elites want Obama to win a 2nd term so they've made sure only bozos are running for the Republican nomination.
pavel.chichikov wrote:
Better still, occupy the volcano. That's about what OWS is doing anyway
I think its better to declare the volcano a terrorist and enemy combatant and tell the US military to try to detain it indefinitely without a trial I think the 2012 NDAA allows renditions across international boundaries so everything should be legal.
shill wrote:
SOPA vote delayed until 2012 - Dec. 22, 2011
Good. I can delay packing. I promised my self as soon as they pass this law and start closing sites like Youtube, I moving out of the country. Any ideas where I can go? I want to go where they speak English and is a good place to live. I was thinking about moving to New Zealand but I found out their head of state is the Queen of England and now all these Earthquakes are happening...
There are lots of subversive thought being expressed in CR’s website & Hoocoodanode. Anybody concerned that when SOPA passes, they might shut down CR’s website?
“Under current practice, copyright owners such as TV networks and Hollywood studios reach out to websites to request that pirated videos be taken down. Under the new regime, they could ask banks, Internet service providers and domain name registrars to stop doing business with websites that they believed were devoted to piracy. They could, for instance, go straight to YouTube's domain registration company and demand that the entire YouTube website be taken down. And if the registrar resisted, the copyright owners would have the legal ability to take the registrar to court.
That move might not be very threatening to major players, like YouTube, with expensive legal teams, but life on the Internet could be made very difficult for smaller companies and start-ups. For lawyers who litigate intellectual property issues, the bill is a godsend, guaranteeing a flood of work, no matter which party wins the case.
The bill would also alter the relationship between the government and the basic architecture of the Internet, allowing the Department of Justice, acting on behalf of aggrieved copyright holders, to perform domain name system filtering -- essentially, blocking entire websites in the name of preventing "
SOPA, Internet Censorship Bill, Lauded By Both Parties In Key House Hearing
There are lots of subversive thought being expressed in CR’s website & Hoocoodanode. Anybody concerned that when SOPA passes, they might shut down CR’s website?
“Under current practice, copyright owners such as TV networks and Hollywood studios reach out to websites to request that pirated videos be taken down. Under the new regime, they could ask banks, Internet service providers and domain name registrars to stop doing business with websites that they believed were devoted to piracy. They could, for instance, go straight to YouTube's domain registration company and demand that the entire YouTube website be taken down. And if the registrar resisted, the copyright owners would have the legal ability to take the registrar to court.
That move might not be very threatening to major players, like YouTube, with expensive legal teams, but life on the Internet could be made very difficult for smaller companies and start-ups. For lawyers who litigate intellectual property issues, the bill is a godsend, guaranteeing a flood of work, no matter which party wins the case.
The bill would also alter the relationship between the government and the basic architecture of the Internet, allowing the
Department of Justice, acting on behalf of aggrieved copyright holders, to perform domain name system filtering -- essentially, blocking entire websites in the name of preventing "
SOPA, Internet Censorship Bill, Lauded By Both Parties In Key House Hearing
So when the SOPA bill passes, all website that could have links to pirated material can be shut down by the government. This include Youtube, Facebook, Google and 90% of all internet web sites. Everyone should look at this video . Anybody concerned about this or am I being overly paranoid?
YouTube - Stop Online Piracy Act (Scary Facts)
Oops. Now that I included a link to youtube from CR's website, this website will be shut down too. Sorry about that.
Mary wrote:
Even if Paul wins IA and NH primaries, do you expect the RNC to nominate him?
No the main stream media will call the election rigged.
Looks like Ron Paul might win the Iowa Caucus. Wait, I forgot. Chris Wallace told us that If Ron Paul wins, it will discredit the Iowa Caucus...
YouTube - Chris Wallace Iowa 'won't count' if Ron Paul wins reason 501 why fox isnt real news
Must see funny video about NDAA 2012. Too bad we won't be laughing when this happens to us. Wake up everybody.
YouTube - Obama signs S. 1867 NDAA ∞ Legal Holocaust Martial Law Your the Enemy Not Terrorists
vtcodger wrote:
Most of the deaths in Iraq are attributable to the actions of George the Clueless and his incompetent buddies, and to the fact that the various factions in Iraq don't seem to much like other. This is not to say that I am a fan of president Obama's foreign policy in the Middle East. I'm not. ... And I'd expected better.
Afghanistan? For reasons that are not clear Obama has made that fiasco his war ... and he seems to me to be losing it. My opinion. We should get the hell out and turn the job of killing innocent Afghan civilians over to the Afghans. I'm sure they are up to it.
Yea. Americans got to wake up to the fact that our leaders are not much better than Kim Jong Il. And with the NDAA 2012 passing soon, they can be held indefinitely without a trial just because the government is suspiscious of them. Just like in North Korea...
mock turtle wrote:
I hate Obama but Kim Jong il was no saint. He starved half of his own population. Kim Jong il killed more of his own people. Obama killed more innocent foreigners. I don't which is worse. Flip a coin
what?
are you saying us forces during obama administration killed more foreigners than kim killed of his own people?
im skeptical but willing to listen, convince me with a credible link or citation!?
(for the record i was...am..... against the invasion of iraq
According to this website about 1.4 Million Iraqi civilians killed since the war.
Iraq Deaths | Just Foreign Policy
This website estimates about 100,000
Iraq Body Count
So split the difference and estimate 700,000? That's not counting deaths in Afghanistan and Libya.
I consider Obama the third term of GWB so GWB & Obama probaly killed as many civilians and Kim Jong il did.
Kauai_Kahuna wrote:
That 1960's NK army still has enough artillery and shells to level Soul.
Would it be too much to ask to hope he is not as crazy as his forefathers?
And couple of Nukes and and 27 year old at the helm.
Tommy Vu wrote:
The "crazed" dead Kim kill any pregnant women in Afghanistan?
US forces have killed a pregnant Afghan woman and injured four other women in a house raid in Afghanistan's southeastern Paktia Province, Press TV reports.
I hate Obama but Kim Jong il was no saint. He starved half of his own population. Kim Jong il killed more of his own people. Obama killed more innocent foreigners. I don't which is worse. Flip a coin
Tommy Vu wrote:
The US was on path to a recovery until the unexpected death of Kim Jong Il
US governement can use this raise the terror threat level and declare martial law. Wait, they didn't pass the NDAA 2012 yet..
badger wrote:
I believe N. Korea has a 1960ish military. Sure, they would be able to inflict damage, but I don't think they are stupid. The S. Korean alert is ilkely theatre.
I think they have couple of Nukes and one of the largest standing army. Plus 27 year old just took over all that military hardware. He might be tempted to take it out for a test drive. So there is plenty to be worried about.
RATM wrote:
Antipodes wrote:
REU: S.KOREA PRESIDENT ORDERS ALL GOV'T WORKERS ON EMERGENCY ALERT
I don't understand this. NK's leader died so they are going to attack SK, or what? Can someone explain?
I think the new leader of NK is the 20 something year old 3rd son of Kim Jon il. I guess they are afraid that the new leader is even more crazier than his father and might tempting to do something drastic to show who is boss
They are arresting Occupy protesters in New York right now.
http://www.ustream.tv/theother99
Multiple choice question. Who made this statement
"An evil exists that threatens every man, woman and child of this great nation. We must take steps to ensure our domestic security and protect our homeland."
Was is it George W. Bush , Adolf Hitler or Barack Obama? Watch this video to find the answer.
YouTube - Obama Signs NDAA Marial Law ∞ Legal Holocaust End of Human Rights Ron Paul Revolution
Sold into slavery as a girl, Shyima Hall becomes a U.S. citizen
A decade ago, Shyima Hall was smuggled into the United States as a 10-year-old slave, forced to cook and clean inside the home of a wealthy Irvine family and, at night, sleep on a squalid mattress in a windowless garage.
Hall's Egyptian parents sold her into slavery when she was 8 for $30 a month, according to authorities. The Cairo couple who bought her moved to Irvine two years later, smuggling Hall into the U.S. where she toiled for them and their five children until she was 13.
Hall said she worked 16 hour days, scrubbing floors, cooking meals and cleaning house, and was rarely allowed outside the spacious home. She was forced to wash her own clothes in a bucket and was forbidden from going to school. She never visited a doctor or dentist and didn't speak a word of English.
Her captors, Abdel Nasser Eid Youssef Ibrahim and his former wife, Amal Ahmed Ewis-abd Motelib, berated her and occasionally slapped her around, authorities said.
Once an Egyptian girl held as a slave, now an American woman - latimes.com
Senator Franken explains why he voted against the Indefinite Detention Bill.
As expected Senate passed the NDAA bill (87 to 13) which allowed US citizens to be detained indefinitely without a trial. It was ironic that yesterday 12/15 was the 220 year anniversary of the signing of our Bill of rights. So, on the 220 anniversary of the Bill of Rights, our 4th and 5th amendment is abolished silently in the dark.
Senator Franken of Minnesota was on of the 13 senator who voted against this Bill. He explains why he voted against this in an article in the Huff Post.
"The bill that passed on Thursday included several problematic provisions, the worst of which could allow the military to detain Americans indefinitely, without charge or trial, even if they're captured in the U.S.
At their core, these provisions will radically alter how we investigate, arrest, and detain individuals suspected of terrorism. What's more, they could undermine the safety of our troops stationed abroad, and they introduce new and unnecessary uncertainty into our counterterrorism efforts.
...
Most notably, we made a grave, indefensible mistake during World War II, when President Roosevelt ordered the incarceration of more than 110,000 people of Japanese origin, as well as approximately 11,000 German-Americans and 3,000 Italian-Americans.
In 1971, President Richard Nixon signed into law the Non-Detention Act to make sure the U.S. government would never again subject any Americans to the unnecessary and unjustifiable imprisonment that so many Japanese-Americans, German-Americans, and Italian-Americans had to endure. It wasn't until 1988, 46 years after the internment, when President Reagan signed the Civil Liberties Act, that the government formally acknowledged and apologized for the grave injustice that was done to citizens and permanent residents of Japanese ancestry.
These were dark, dark periods in American history. And it is easy today to think that is all behind us.
But I fear the detention provisions in the bill forget the lessons we learned from the mistakes we made when we interned thousands of innocent Japanese, Germans, and Italians.
With this defense authorization act, Congress will, for the first time in 60 years, authorize the indefinite detention of U.S. citizens without charge or trial, according to its advocates. This would be the first time that Congress has deviated from President Nixon's Non-Detention Act. And what we are talking about here is that Americans could be subjected to life imprisonment without ever being charged, tried, or convicted of a crime, without ever having an opportunity to prove their innocence to a judge or a jury of their peers. And without the government ever having to prove their guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.
I think that denigrates the very foundations of this country. It denigrates the Bill of Rights. It denigrates what our Founders intended when they created a civilian, non-military justice system for trying and punishing people for crimes committed on U.S. soil. Our Founders were fearful of the military--and they purposely created a system of checks and balances to ensure we did not become a country under military rule. This bill undermines that core principle, which is why I could not support it.
Yesterday was the anniversary of the ratification of the Bill of Rights, and this wasn't the way to mark its birthday."
President Obama has indicated that he is going to sign this Bill. So basically Nixon and Reagan are better defender of our civil rights and the constitution than Obama.
Obama may force public schools to teach students to snitch on their parents
YouTube - The U.S.'s March Toward Totalitarianism?
lawyerliz wrote:
Governor' Senator ; CEO === Imbecile?
Let's have a lottery for high public office. We couldn't be worse.
Sounds like a great idea. Time for a Constitutional Amendment.
splat wrote:
1 currency now -yogi wrote:
What if the sodomite had only stolen two chocolate chip cookies? 13 years?
What if he hadn't committed the two previous felonies is an equally valid question.
~splat
Moral of the story is that if you've committed 2 previous felonies, dream big like Jon Corzine instead of stealing 4 chocolate chip cookies.
A person got 50 years in prison for stealing 9 video tapes. Another person got 26 years in prison for stealing 4 chocolate chip cookies. However Jon Corzine will not get a single minute in prison for stealing $1.2 Billion
YouTube - USA land of the free jails one in 100 American adults
yuan wrote:
I prefer Barry's opinion to CR's:
Bailout Total: $29.616 Trillion Dollars | The Big Picture
I agree. Has CR sold out? It's true that the Banks paid most of it back but there are Trillions MBS that the Fed bought that is outstanding. CR is also forgetting that banks got preferrential rates when they borrowed their money. How come the Fed doesn't lend me couple of Billion at 0.01% interest rate. I'm sure I can make a few million a year even if I was a terrible businessman.
Rolling Stone - December 9 2011 by Matt Taibbi
Right now, the Senate is openly taking aim at the rights of American citizens under the guise of an argument that anyone who supports al-Qaeda has no rights. But if you pay close attention, you’ll notice the law’s supporters here and there conveniently leaving out those caveats about "anyone who supports al-Qaeda." For instance, here’s Lindsey Graham again:
"If you’re an American citizen and you betray your country, you’re not going to be given a lawyer ... I believe our military should be deeply involved in fighting these guys at home or abroad."
As Greenwald points out, this idea – that an American who commits treason can be detained without due process – is in direct defiance of Article III, Section III of the Constitution, which reads:
"No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court."
This effort to eat away at the rights of the accused was originally gradual, but to me it looks like that process is accelerating. It began in the Bush years with a nebulous description of terrorist sedition that may or may not have included links to Sunni extremist groups in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.
But words like "associated" and "substantial" and "betray" have crept into the discussion, and now it feels like the definition of a terrorist is anyone who crosses some sort of steadily-advancing invisible line in their opposition to the current government.
This confusion about the definition of terrorism comes at a time when the economy is terrible, the domestic government is more unpopular than ever, and there is quite a lot of radical and even revolutionary political agitation going on right here at home. There are people out there – I’ve met some of them, in both the Occupy and Tea Party movements – who think that the entire American political system needs to be overthrown, or at least reconfigured, in order for progress to be made.
It sounds paranoid and nuts to think that those people might be arrested and whisked away to indefinite, lawyerless detention by the military, but remember: This isn’t about what’s logical, it’s about what’s going on in the brains of people like Lindsey Graham and John McCain.
At what point do those luminaries start equating al-Qaeda supporters with, say, radical anti-capitalists in the Occupy movement? What exactly is the difference between such groups in the minds (excuse me, in what passes for the minds) of the people who run this country?
That difference seems to be getting smaller and smaller all the time, and such niceties as American citizenship and the legal tradition of due process seem to be less and less meaningful to the people who run things in America.
What does seem real to them is this “battlefield earth” vision of the world, in which they are behind one set of lines and an increasingly enormous group of other people is on the other side.
Here’s another way to ask the question: On which side of the societal fence do you think the McCains and Grahams would put, say, an unemployed American plumber who refused an eviction order from Bank of America and holed up with his family in his Florida house, refusing to move? Would Graham/McCain consider that person to have the same rights as Lloyd Blankfein, or is that plumber closer, in their eyes, to being like the young Muslim who throws a rock at a U.S. embassy in Yemen?
A few years ago, that would have sounded like a hysterical question. But it just doesn’t seem that crazy anymore. We’re turning into a kind of sci-fi society in which making it and being a success not only means getting rich, but also means winning the full rights of citizenship. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t see this ending well.
Police employ Predator drone spy planes on home front
Reporting from Washington— Armed with a search warrant, Nelson County Sheriff Kelly Janke went looking for six missing cows on the Brossart family farm in the early evening of June 23. Three men brandishing rifles chased him off, he said.
Janke knew the gunmen could be anywhere on the 3,000-acre spread in eastern North Dakota. Fearful of an armed standoff, he called in reinforcements from the state Highway Patrol, a regional SWAT team, a bomb squad, ambulances and deputy sheriffs from three other counties.
He also called in a Predator B drone.
As the unmanned aircraft circled 2 miles overhead the next morning, sophisticated sensors under the nose helped pinpoint the three suspects and showed they were unarmed. Police rushed in and made the first known arrests of U.S. citizens with help from a Predator, the spy drone that has helped revolutionize modern warfare.
Predator drone spy plane used in civilian arrests - latimes.com
REBear wrote:
Obama: jobless rate may fall to 8% by election - MarketWatch
I think they get the unemployment statistic by doing the survey over the phone. If you can't afford a home phone or have become homeless you are automatically not counted as unemployed. Brilliant plan.
I just posted a prediction: Who will be on the 2012 Republican Presidential Ticket (President / VP) ?
Rob Dawg wrote:
Then why did the lower floor pulverize also. Shouldn't the 30 floors pushing it down just create pancaked floors instead? They found mostly small pieces of concrete, steel, human and other remains. And why would the government destroy the evidence so quickly?