Recent comments by azurite

Nytol actually off to do some food shopping and then drive back into the fog & cool. thanks for the information

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

Voice traffic can be successfully carried across a mere 8Khz of sampling bandwidth, so you can lose a lot of packets and still have the perception of continuity. 11Khz (11025 hz) with a good perception of clarity. CD audio is 44.1Khz, a DAT is 48Khz.

Thanks RIF.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

The system is not being destroyed, but repurposed.

If you don't have families and communities (public schools, etc.) then there's no one to raise the children to be disciplined, hard workers, yet easily duped by oligarchy to believe that unions aren't necessary, just work hard, respect your 'betters', show up on time, ready to work, etc., consume, have children, etc

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:


Off topic question: it's pretty hot (for here) where I am today (Willamette Valley, OR) & has been for several days. We lost internet access several times today. I was told it was because of the hot temperatures. Voice phone kept working w/out a problem as far as I could tell. Internet is via telephone line, afaik.

Why would internet access be more vulnerable to heat then voice?

josap wrote:

We are making great strides toward feudalism.

Feudalism was based on mutual or reciprocal duties & responsibilities of lower classes & aristocracy (regardless of how it sometimes worked in practice). "Simply defined, it was a system for structuring society around relationships derived from the holding of land in exchange for service or labour.

Although derived from the Latin word feodum or feudum (fief),[1] then in use, the term feudalism and the system it describes were not conceived of as a formal political system by the people living in the medieval period. In its classic definition, by François-Louis Ganshof (1944),[2] feudalism describes a set of recipro cal legal and military obligations among the warrior nobility, revolving around the three key concepts of lords, vassals and fiefs.[2]" Feudalism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Corporate oligarchic capitalism is not. Unless it's unilateral w/the peons owing duties & responsibilities to the rentiers/corporate oligarchy but there's no reciprocity (you must earn your salary, but I am free to fire you at will, decrease your pay, and deprive you of the retirement and any other benefits our contract obligates the corporate/wealthy entity to pay). More like based on destroying the social system that enabled the rise of capitalism and industrialization.

skk wrote:

I'll also be interested in what you find out.

So you can't/aren't interested in responding to the question?

Mary wrote:

You may be disappointed to find that after all the appeals are said and done, Homeowners Pat and Pat may not get a new home or a personally customized check cut from their state's share of the award.

Only mildly, I didn't really expect that they would. Just wishful thinking on my part and restitution would be the return of their former homes, in good condition.

Mary wrote:

This case is a civil action.

That doesn't really answer my question. In some type of civil litigation, damages is the only remedy possible, injunctive remedies are possible, only sometimes is restitution a possibility. Like I said, I didn't look for & read the statutes used to file the litigation, I thought that you, being the very thorough person that you are, might've.

skk wrote:

Every nation is crap.

and separately:

How about treating it as a request for information in addition to wondering if other nations do a better job of presenting "news" in a well-researched and relatively objective fashion? Iirc, Times of India has done a pretty good job of covering Monsanto's activities in India. Much better then any of the MSM in the US (that I've seen anyway), at least imo, it has. But I don't know (don't know enough to judge) how well it does in other news areas.

Maybe you do. Do you?

skk wrote:

I feel like people in America are getting a completely different picture of what’s going on in other countries than what is reality

I agree--at least re: mainstream media-- but which other nations have news services that do a far superior job of consistently publishing well researched, well written news coverage? National & international politics, economics, legal stuff? And do excellent investigative reporting?

edit to add: and of a few of the better ones that I'm aware of, like FT (for some types of information), how many people in those nations read them, rather then getting much of their "news" from Limbaugh & Fox news equivalents?

BBC News - Spain: Royals' plane food budget to double

"Global charity Caritas said on Thursday that around three out of every 10 children in Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Italy and Spain are in or have been pushed to the brink of poverty.

Greece said its youth unemployment had now exceeded 60 percent. Spain's is above 50 percent and Portugal has just topped 40 percent." Austerity's children becoming Europe's lost generation
| Reuters
news article is from 2013, so perhaps all those children are living way above poverty level this year.

BBC News - Banks accused of rigging silver price

"Last September, the US Commodity Futures Trading Commission said it had found no evidence of wrongdoing during a five-year investigation into the silver market.

Previous investigations by the US regulator also found no evidence of malpractice.

Both the price of gold and silver are fixed by a small number of banks every day during a conference call. This allows investors to buy and sell the precious metals at a single, quoted price.

Deutsche Banks announced earlier this year it would be withdrawing from the gold and silver price-fixing markets."

Mary wrote:

secures principles of due process from autocracy.

secure principles of due process for autocracy Fixed It For Ya

only occasionally for others.

edit to add: and is restitution even a possible remedy for those who lost their homes/were scammed? Restitution is intended to make people "whole" again. Do you think that will be the remedy sought for and granted in this litigation (I don't even know if the statutes provide for it or if it's damages and that's subject to appeal, negotiation w/the state to lower the payments, etc.

Requested Page Not Found | Eric T. Schneiderman

"Attorney General Schneiderman served Home Affordable Direct, Inc., JR Holding Group Corp and Javier Gutierrez with a notice of intent to bring litigation for engaging in widespread fraud and illegality in the marketing and operation of their foreclosure rescue and loan modification business. Through radio advertisements, atheir website and live sales pitches, Gutierrez and his two companies deceptively induced consumers to pay substantial illegal upfront fees by making multiple misrepresentations and then failed to deliver on those promises."

W/all the scams, I wonder what the total skim actually was of the housing bubble & its sequelae

also: "coalition of more than 25 states in filing a friend-of-the-court brief urging the U.S. Supreme Court to uphold consumer rescission rights under the federal Truth in Lending Act (TILA). TILA requires creditors to clearly and accurately disclose the terms of loans to consumers and to inform consumers about their statutory rights. When creditors fail to take these steps, consumers have three years from the date of a covered home loan, to rescind the loan. Rescission is a powerful consumer remedy and protects consumers from losing their homes in foreclosure proceedings."

maybe a little late.

skk wrote:

you've very much missed the point .

Or maybe you've missed mine.

Not that it will matter to you.

skk wrote:

Given not BOUGHT.

Sixty years of US aid to Pakistan: Get the data | Global development |

I've heard 115 billion. Israel and Palestinians receive US funds, but for very different reasons | GlobalPost


"The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers plays a role in military and civilian construction activities in Saudi Arabia. Three security assistance organizations are funded through the U.S. Foreign Military Sales program: to provide training and support in the use of weapons and other security-related services to the Saudi armed forces; to assist in the modernization of the Saudi Arabian National Guard; and to train and equip a Facility Security Force, part of the Ministry of Interior." Saudi Arabia

'course the Saudis pay for most of the military stuff they get from the US.

"The United States has provided economic and military aid, respectively, to Jordan since 1951 and
1957. Total U.S. aid to Jordan through FY2013 amounted to approximately $13.83 billion. Levels
of aid have fluctuated, increasing in response to threats faced by Jordan and decreasing during
periods featuring political differences or reductions of aid worldwide. On September 22, 2008,
the U.S. and Jordanian governments reached an agreement whereby the United States agreed to
provide a total of $660 million in annual foreign assistance to Jordan over a five-year period,
ending with FY2014. In the year ahead, both parties may try to reach a new five-year aid deal.
In recent months, Congress has taken additional steps to support Jordan. On January 17, 2014, the
President signed into law P.L. 113-76, the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2014 which Congress
passed days earlier. The law provides Jordan $360 million in economic aid and $300 million in
military aid. It also stipulates that “from amounts made available under title VIII designated for
Overseas Contingency Operations/Global War on Terrorism, not less than $340 million above the
levels included in the Memorandum of Understanding between the United States and Jordan shall
be made available for the extraordinary costs related to instability in the region, including for
security requirements along the border with Iraq."

Haven't looked for assistance amounts to Lebanon, Syria, et al. Or, say Nigeria, where the US has been increasing its military presence substantially recently.

skk wrote:

and there's the issue. you read what is translated, what has been selected to be translated

Same is true of the Bible. Reason why I've never understood how people can follow the Bible "literally." How do they know what the Bible actually said, especially if they can only read contemporary American English.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Five Presidents later and they still can't let it go.

Would that be in comparison to the members of the GOP who still haven't gotten over FDR's & Congress' passage of the legislation establishing the Social Security program, the Glass-Stegall bill (although "they" got the latter overruled) or to those US citizens who still can't get over that the Confederacy lost the US Civil War?

Worries about US consumers drag stocks lower |

anecdotal information: most traffic I've seen in this area since 2006-2007, many huge RVs, a few of the ocean view hotels have lots of vehicles in the parking lots. Not many people on the beach, but while it's sunny, it's a bit windy on the beach. More out of state plates then I've seen in a couple of years.

EngineerJim wrote:

He famously made the statement that the collapse of the Soviet Union was the worst thing that ever happened in history.

Isn't Putin a politician who started out in the KGB? Rose to prominence during the Yeltsin administration? My guess would be that anything he says publicly is designed to accomplish some political purpose (and very much colored by his background & perspective).

One aspect of Russia and its empire that stayed constant from Czar or Tsar through the SU was the horrible bureaucracy and influence of the secret services. Seemed to me both played a role in the collapse of the SU, a nation-state & empire struggling to modernize (as it had been for years, before Lenin's ascension, and after the rise of Stalin's regime).

Now it seems that it's the US that's having difficulty modernizing a substantial portion of its infrastructure.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Yeah, because being absolutely correct is no defense.

That's what the discussion's been about in part, is how "correct" it was or more specifically what was actually 'won." But it wouldn't be the first time you declared yourself "absolutely correct" when there was information provided that contradicted your position or that you seemed unable to respond to questions.

Russia's still around, and appears to be once again enlarging its sphere of influence or whatever you might call it. The US has greatly changed, and not necessarily for the better. So again, who won and what was won? Is the "cold war" truly over? While the Soviet Union's totalitarianism may no longer exist in its previous state (it may have been called communism, but it didn't meet the definition any more then the US still meets the definition of a republic, as defined by political theorists), it's not as its core has disappeared. The other "threat" of the cold war, still exists.

Cuba's still around. China seems to be doing quite well & is still very authoritarian. In both of the largest "communist" nations, authoritarism was a major feature. Where was the ideological victory against authoritarianism?

I don't consider the increasing power of corporate capitalism (and its growing authoritarianism) and the activities of the NSA, the suspension of a substantial portion of US citizen due process rights as an indication of "victory." Nor do I consider the LSD and other experiments on members of the US military & other US citizens to that occurred during the Cold War (and apparently considered to be part of waging that "war") as a "victory."

it seems that you do.

What are you defending yourself against?

Rob Dawg wrote:

Five or six angels dancing?

Is that the metaphor you want to employ? What you posted was anecdotal evidence. I questioned its veracity for more than that, a statement of one person.

sm_landlord wrote:

I can't even imagine what would happen if I wanted to do an international wire or something like that. I'm not even sure that they have the necessary SWIFT codes and such.

I think re: international wires, you're right, it will happen. I think I can do so at my CU, although I'd have to check as it's something I've rarely needed to do.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Unless his personal comments confirmed it eh?

Confirmed that he believed it was accurate at that moment.

Mike in Long Island wrote:

BBC News - Sierra Leone hunts Ebola patient kidnapped in Freetown

Health Chief Takes Illinois TB Patient to Court | CNS News

later articles stated the man was jailed & given meds, has now been released because he's no longer infectious.

sm_landlord wrote:

They're trying to catch up on services, but they aren't there yet.

What kind of services do you mean? Just wondering.

I can't move all of my stuff to the CU I use for all my personal accounts because I have to maintain a specific kind of trust account. In the state I'm in (one person's told me Washington state law is different), CUs can't allow any entity other then the account holder to have view access to a trust account or that's my understanding.

burnside wrote:

I have never understood the demand for history to conform to someone's tidy requirement of 'fixing a point where' the tides changed.

Elementary and middle school education and many people like fixed points & periods, it helps to locate oneself in time, and it does help, in a war, if one side surrenders (or there is mutual agreement to stop fighting), so that peace can be declared and people feel perhaps a little safer. Not that that seems to be happening in the Sudan.

If there are none, then what reason is there to say, X person knew they'd "lost" at the moment, is there?

sm_landlord wrote:

I guess a few customers might play the game successfully and actually come out ahead by the bonus amount, but I'll bet most people who bite on this end up losing the bonus and more before they close the account in disgust.

Why not just move to a credit union?

burnside wrote:

azurite, there's no fixed point. Like all else in history, the 'future's already here.'

I don't understand your response, how can someone "win" if there's no fixed point at which you are aware of having "lost"? Then there's perspective: some in the US may feel that they've "won" if they're wealthy and their lives are good. Others in the US may feel that they and "their" US has lost or been lost.

Some might believe that the US, "fighting" a "cold" war (that got pretty "hot" for some) became too similar to what it was allegedly fighting against. I've listened and (perhaps) understood from people who lived at the time, how threatening both Nazism and Russia's version of communism was, although from what I was told it was as much the explicit policy of invasion and empire that was the most threatening aspect for many people, as other aspects of the ideology. If not more so.
One Austrian I spoke to, said only that his father had been unemployed for over a year (or more) before Anschluss. He found a job shortly after Anschluss and continued to be employed, apparently throughout WWII. For that family, their perspective might've been that Anschluss was a good thing.

I remember reading, as a child, an encyclopedia entry re: Hitler/Nazism, published in the 1930's--whoever authored the entry spoke very favorably of Hitler's regime because of the decrease in unemployment, etc, very little mention of his policies towards Jews, epileptics, people w/developmental disabilities, gypsies, homosexuals, Jehovah's witnesses. .. ), partly because the US had/has plenty of anti-Semites, in the general population and the Department of State.

I do think what actually happens or happened is much more complex then the "official" versions. That's why I asked what was won and when. Maybe for that specific cosmonaut, the existence of that tech toy meant that the SU hadn't accomplished what it set out to do. But that's just that person's perspective.

I wonder what Gorbachev's perspective would be?

Rob Dawg wrote:

The Cold War and ideological war and until now.

The US has a coherent ideology? Hard to see that given the Patriot Act, the changes in the tax code from Rocket Ronnie's time to the present, the bailout of the TBTF banks and the general protection of the wealthy & ultrawealthy from any financial or economic discomfort. Or maybe it's just a reversion back to 1920's "ideology."

My impression has been that the US lost ground when it started increasing the number of "advisors" iin Vietnam. Others might date it earlier, given CIA organization of coups, etc., and the days of segregation of blacks and whites, loss of tribal status for many Native Americans w/corresponding loss of control of land, etc. and women often treated (legally & otherwise) as second class citizens.

Perhaps I don't understand what kind of "ideology" you mean. And I guess the US does have the most aircraft carriers, along w/aging, unsafe domestic infrastructure. I wonder if the US has the most privatized military force (including support systems) and how that's an embodiment of its successful "ideology". I'm sure it's not the most bloated and fraud-ridden, although there's plenty of that too.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Why doesn't Mexico have an illegal immigrant problem? Illegal immigration in Mexico - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Additionally, Contreras found that at coffee farms in the Mexican state Chiapas, "40,000 Guatemalan field hands endure backbreaking jobs and squalid living conditions to earn roughly [US]$3.50 a day" and that some farmers "even deduct the cost of room and board from that amount."[13] The Mexican National Institute of Migration estimated that 400,235 people crossed the Guatemala–Mexico border illegally every year and that around 150,000 of them intended to enter the United States.[14]"

If the last sentence is close to accurate, that would leave over 200,000 people staying in Mexico.

Rob Dawg wrote:

The cosmonaut said in later years he knew in that blinding moment that the West had won.

What did the "west" win and for how long?

edit to add: particularly if, as you said, it comes down to resources, and who's got them

Rob Dawg wrote:

Best we build the wall higher, faster, stronger while we still can.

Better start pushing your Congressional representatives to repeal NAFTA and CAFTA, if you want to slow immigration from Mexico & central American nations. No wall will do it if the US/US corporations continue to pillage their economies.

Firemane wrote:

Occupy Wall Street is back?!?

Never gone away completely. Occupy Sandy Relief NYC: OWS helps victims of the superstorm

there's a small OWS in my small town (Oregon coast) & elsewhere in OR. Corporate media has moved on to new more exciting/useful for corporate propaganda issues.

Mary wrote:

  1. Statutory codification of socially unacceptable behavior ( "a crime" or "a violation")

Example of flawed legislation drafting and/or enforcement:

"TMX's refashioned loans are yet another example of how the nation's high-cost lenders have modified their offerings to circumvent city, state and federal laws designed to limit them. After Ohio prohibited excessive interest rates on short-term loans in 2008, payday and auto title lenders used a loophole to offer nearly identical loans under different state laws. In Texas, TMX subsidiary TitleMax has offered customers cash for free as part of a ploy to get around city ordinances." Insta-Loophole: In Florida, High-Cost Lender Skirts the Law - ProPublica

Doc Holiday wrote:

Check-cashing stores target areas with high crime -- ScienceDaily Rose Colored Glasses

FTA: "especially government support checks." Not sure what gov't support checks are meant, SNAP benefits are placed on a type of debit card in my state, and SSA really pushes electronic deposit of any type of SS benefit. TANF?

I think more people are being forced to be paid by debit card. - NY Times

"For these largely hourly workers, paper paychecks and even direct deposit have been replaced by prepaid cards issued by their employers. Employees can use these cards, which work like debit cards, at an A.T.M. to withdraw their pay. "

josap wrote:

Not sure about other banks, WFC charges a $15. per month fee for checking if you don't have a min balance.

"Bankrate's 2014 Credit Union Checking Survey found that 72 percent of the nation's 50 largest credit unions offer a free checking account, meaning the account charges no monthly service fees or point-of-sale transaction fees regardless of the balance." Free Checking Flourishes at Credit Unions |

Probably not as many CUs & CU branches as there are banks.

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

Let me put it this way ... will bombing civilians in Gaza make Israel safer?

If the article I linked to has any credibility, Hamas is increasing the number of casualties (in schools) by not letting Palestinian civilians leave areas Israel as said it will bomb & warned to evacuate.

Does Hamas doing that make Palestinians safer? Does Hamas bombing Israel make Palestine safer?

Do you truly believe that if Israel never bombed Gaza again that Hamas, the Saudis & other Arab nations who so hate Israel would stop their hostile activities? Like the author of the article asked, how many Israelis need to be killed before it's ok for Israel to act?

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

... would we be having this conversation?

Why would I if the point I was trying to make was that it so often seems that the focus is on what the Israelis do--and not what the Arabs or any other nation or ethnic group in the world is doing that seems pretty horrendous. The Boko Haram reported to kidnap 200 school girls--and now have killed some of the girls' parents. The number of women raped in the Sudan and so many other places as a part of "civil unrest." The latter is mentioned off & on, I guess it's so common as to be barely newsworthy.

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

What does that have to do with bombing a school?

How many other nations had schools bombed today? Maybe Afghanistan? To stop girls from learning how to read.

None of it's ok, the question is why does it seem to be worse if Israel does something then if the US or Canada,or the Arabs or the Palestinians do?

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

How have they treated the Jews? (Granted, better than the Christians have, on balance, but...)

At what time and where? Not so badly at one time, now, I think it depends. Iirc, King Hussein of Jordan got along ok w/Israel, and I think Israel & Jordan still get along fairly well.

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

Does that make it right?

do you protest as strongly re: how the Arabs & others in the Mideast (other then the Israelis) have treated the Palestinians? Kuwait kicked out every Palestinian in Kuwait after Gulf War 1. Wasn't it Egypt that blocked off a tunnel the Palestinians were using? Iirc, none of the Arab nations will permit any Palestinians to emigrate (become citizens). The Anti-Palestinian Arab Nations | Jewish & Israel News

FTA: "Last year, tens of thousands of Gazans hired lawyers to prove that they really had Egyptian ancestry to try to become Egyptian citizens. A few hundred Palestinians with Egyptian mothers managed to become citizens after public protests.

Meanwhile, Jordan has been stripping much of its Palestinian population of their citizenship if they can prove that they have ties to the West Bank. Again, this is being done, they say, for their own good.

It is obvious that most ordinary Palestinians who have lived their whole lives in Egypt, Lebanon, Syria and the Gulf would love to become full citizens if they were given the chance, and those in Jordan want to remain citizens. Arab nations are denying them that right."

Is that "right"?

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

The idea that they can maintain an apartheid like situation indefinitely is insane.

The US seems to think a form of it's a good idea. N.Y. State’s Schools Most Segregated in U.S., Report Says - Bloomberg plus the far greater percentage of black males in prison then white males.

Not to mention how historically many Native Americans were treated in the US, and I believe, in Canada and Australia.

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon expressed his horror at the attack on the school at Beit Hanoun in the northern Gaza strip. "Many have been killed – including women and children, as well as U.N. staff," he said in a statement.

How many Israelis must die before we are ‘allowed’ to defend them? | Hilik Bar | Comment is free | The Guardian

" Hamas has fired over 1,500 rockets into Israel. The Palestinian envoy to the UN human rights council, Ibrahim Khreisheh, observed that Hamas rocket-fire amounts to war crimes, “whether it hits or misses, because it is directed at civilian targets”.

Israel’s operation, meanwhile, is dedicated solely to removing the capacity of Hamas to fire missiles into Israeli population centres and dismantling its terror tunnels. Eager to count the number of dead in Gaza as victims of Israel, Hamas has been encouraging its citizens to stay at home when the Israel Defence Forces send warnings to evacuate. Hamas’s perverse logic is designed to put Gaza’s civilians in harm’s way."

EngineerJim wrote:

Isn't that verboten for the left?

Obama's politics aren't of the left.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Good to hear that US Virgin Islands have been exempted from Obamacare by Presidential edict.

Maybe most go to the UK Virgin Islands--they have or used to have NHS. A MD friend lived & worked there for awhile (British VI), thought the NHS system there worked well.

Cinco-X wrote:

Did anyone notice that France had their own version of Kristallnacht the other day?

To which incidents do you refer?

Kristnallnacht was gov't backed--are you saying the French gov't instigated & protected anti-Semitic incidents on the level of Kristallnacht? By the way, Kristallnacht occurred in Austria as well as Germany. Global Anti-Semitism: Selected Incidents Around the World in 2014

Mary wrote:

I have not located yet AZ or "national" file corroborates Courthouse News. I did notice this though ...

A similar suit was filed in Multnomah County Circuit court (PDX, OR) recently. The Northwest Policyholder: Oregon Class Action Filed Against Regence BCBS Over Non-Profit Status

See also:

"A common theme has appeared among the insurance filings that the Oregon State Public Interest Research Group has put under its microscope: ,None of them are accounting for the savings that they should see as a result of a reduction in hospital charity care -- and each of the plans that OSPIRG examined have higher estimates of medical inflation than their competitors.

The Lund Report looked at Moda’s filing at the end of last month. After interviews with OSPIRG’s Jesse O’Brien and Dr. Ralph Prows, the CEO of Oregon’s Health Co-Op, this article will give a closer overview of the rest of the individual and small business marketplace. Health Co-Op Leads Market in Low Rates, but Hospitals Appear to Be Pocketing Savings | The Lund Report