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We need to look with new eyes at things which we thought were not vulnerable.”
GMO/technology is the "answer" (it's ok to pollute because humans can engineer organisms & create a new world that's far better designed then nature ever did and who needs nature anyway?).
Besides, by the time humans are forced to notice they've screwed the earth up for themselves and all but some bacteria, fungi, viruses & some insects, "technology" will have made space travel possible and it'll be off to a new planet/world(s) for the wealthy & their most necessary slaves (assuming robots can't perform all needed services) and the rest left to die and that'll be ok because it was just social darwinism at work or maybe there'll be a new religion that will "explain"/justify why it just has to be that the rich/powerful escape and the rest suffer & die.
How should I assess his intellect in light of this comment?
Certainly interesting that someone who so believes in the effectiveness in gun use in promoting public safety in the US should think it's worthwhile using the legal system for any public purpose. Why doesn't he suggest (and of course, show us how it's done by personal demonstration) that anyone who doesn't have a gun on him/her at a shooting should be lined up against the wall and shot--by those who are superior in their duty to public safety and have guns handy. Who needs due process, etc., any legal system other then a bunch of people w/guns and plenty of ammunition? That seems to be the implication. The justice and/or legal system is inadequate, all hail justice by gun.
Some someday there will be inflation
I've seen noticeable increases in the prices of a variety of foods, produce, grains, meat. Price of gas at the least expensive stations w/in 60 miles has dropped below $3/gallon for the first time in I don't know how long, I doubt it'll last long. Water & sewer rates, et al the other stuff that goes on that bill, up 30% in the past two years, supposedly only increasing by 5% next year. Base cost of electricity has increased, power provided by an electricity cooperative so still less expensive (at the moment anyway) then it is 25 miles north where power is provided by private utility. "Tax" & rate increases keep the internet/phone bill going up, slowly, but steadily.
Local restaurant food prices have increased, as have hotel room charges. Residential rents have increased. Property taxes have increased (assessed value of house has not)--paying off bonds. It's clear there's going to be yet another proposed bond levy (general obligation backed by property taxes) on next year's ballot.
But it's only inflation when wages go up right? And that's not happening for many people.
Feckless Ness wrote:
Explored the area from Bandon to Florence for several days and fell in love with it.
Cape Blanco state park is my favorite OR coast state park, Port Orford Head park (day use only) my favorite day use park, latter was once a Coast Guard station and you can still see the remnant of a track that carried the rescue boats down the beach cliff into a tiny bay and from there into the open ocean. If you've been through Gold Beach you might've noticed its a nice (given its location) cafe/bookstore-if it's still open (not far from Cape Blanco). I haven't been able to get down there for a few years and it seemed to be struggling the last time I was there.
I like that part of the coast but the politics are pretty bad, Curry county's lost almost all of its services, and except perhaps in a few of the towns (there are few towns) is effectively unpoliced and I'm not sure about any other emergency services either--fire, etc. One of the small towns along 101 in Curry county seems almost abandoned. Not sure how much better Douglas county is (probably not as underfunded).
Also think Cape Sebastian recreation area or whatever it's called is wonderful. I haven't been to the newer parks (purchased in the last 5 years or so) near the OR/CA border. Here's one Oregon State Parks and Recreation Department: Crissey Field State Recreation Site --have you been there? I thought I read something about state parks acquiring another but can't find it.
Rob Dawg wrote:
Funny how so many now seeking to bring about national socialism now suffered so greatly under national socialism then.
you can call a party of totalitarianism w/genocidal goals whatever you want, including "national socialist". Or communist or Republican or Democrat. Unless you believe that the policies towards Native Americans in the US weren't genocidal for a significant period of US history.
And you could be looking to divert yourself via baiting others.
I'm looking at Coos Bay/North Bend & Coquille areas. No big cities.
Not sure about Coquille, but Coos Bay/North Bend area is pretty depressed & has been since the 1980's. Couple of younger people who came here from CB talk about how much less drugs there are here (and it's a problem here).
Beautiful harbor though and the port had the sense to buy the rail link & apply for rehab funds when then RR owner tried to abandon the line. If you are there to look at property be sure to visit the line of coastal state parks close to CB--starting w/Sunset Bay state park. Exploring The Cape Arago Beach Loop on the Oregon Coast - Oregon’s Adventure Coast The link refers to Charleston (tiny town), the Charleston port (very small) is owned/part of the Port of Coos Bay.
Not sure why the link refers to Charleston as the start of the loop as I remember going there via Coos Bay (signs in the town that direct you towards 'state parks. You can walk most of that loop (occasionally on the road, mostly on paths), there's a trail head near the parking lot at Sunset Bay park. It's a great walk/hike on a nice day w/some wonderful views. I had a dog w/me, was able to let her off lead for about 60% of the walk, couldn't enter Shore Acres park, no pets allowed, but the path goes around the park.
I particularly like being stuck behind tourists who are doing 20 in a 40 zone, mildly speeding up and then down again. And absolutely refusing to pull over to let the 15 cars piled up behind them pass Facepalm
One of the reasons I like mass transit. If I'm on a bus I'm usually less annoyed by drivers--I can safely do something besides fume, if on a train, I can snicker at all the people sitting in slow traffic. And some of those slow drivers might take mass transit if it worked for their trips (only some, some would drive until they die because that's their "right.")
They aren't all No one 17 and under admittedholes here either of course, it's just that those are the ones you notice and it can be more than just a nuisance at times.
do they pull over for emergency vehicles or block them too?
It's almost fun to watch an incompetent RV driver think about and then attempt to pull off the road (or to pretend to) to let an emergency vehicle w/lights flashing, etc., go by. One reason some RV drivers don't use pullout areas is because they're afraid, they (probably w/good reason) don't trust their ability to safely maneuver their vehicle in anything other then a huge parking lot. Quite a quandry for those drivers.
Azurite - I'm thinking about buying rental property in OR. How's yer landlord-tenant law up there?
Residential or commercial? For residential, it's somewhat protective of tenants rights but there's no cause eviction for month to month residential tenancies (30 days notice required if tenant's been there less then a year, 60 days if a year or longer) unless tenant can show eviction is retaliatory. Some restrictions on lease provisions (money penalties for breaking lease, etc).
One difference I've noticed--in NYC, apt windows have to have child guards (if there's a young child in the household), in PDX & suburbs, they don't see to be required as I see news articles re: a child falling out of apt. or other rental window from time to time.
I know little about commercial--except that I see storefront/office vacancies in every city/town I've been in, from PDX to Corvallis/Albany to central coast. I think commercial L-T law is pretty standard but don't really know.
Opinion on residential L-T depends on who you talk to: some tenants will say LLs abuse, a few LLs (or their legal reps) will go on for some time on how some horrible tenants take advantage of notice requirements for FEDs, etc, to avoid eviction.
Residential rents seem to have increased in the last 4-5 years in most of the northwestern OR metro areas, also on the central coast (probably north coast too). Quite a few people buying coast residential properties for VRD (vacation rental dwellings), and in some coast towns some restrictions have been imposed on the VRDs because of problems w/loud parties, trash, etc., but overall I think town gov'ts welcome VRDs, etc., because they can tax/impose fees for permits.
Requirements to rent have increased--Security, cleaning deposit, pet deposit, first & last, credit check, etc.., was far easier to rent in Eugene in the 1980's when I arrived, iirc I had to pay only a moderate cleaning deposit.
edit to add: there's a HCN poster (whose name I can't remember at the moment, sorry, it's not Yuan) who, I think, lives in PDX or PDX metro who seems to know alot about residential & commercial RE in that area).
The reality here is more like the friendly 'family farmer' takes up one and a half lanes of a two-lane highway with a vehicle that's likely over weight limits and finds it convenient to move his rig between fields at 4-5pm, 20mph
I haven't seen much of that, more a farmer driving whatever, tractor, etc. down a state highway, partly on one lane, partly on the verge. Most seemed to keep an eye on the traffic behind them and would look for a wider verge to pull over onto to let some of it go by. I think they did that because of the pull over law.
There have always been so many other slow moving vehicles (some chip trucks, other types of trucks) that the farmers always seemed like the most "polite" of them.
Where I live now it's log trucks (numbers increasing in the past 2 years), chip trucks (added fun of bits of wood chips left in their wake), and huge RVs and people driving 20+ mph below the speed limit for reasons known only to themselves.
Lobbyist Ben Dover wrote:
If your RV has enough power they are all in the way. Crazy
RV may have the power, but many of the drivers lack either the brainpower or the coordination. 30-35 mph and apparently afraid (or unwilling) to use pullouts/pullovers that can accommodate their huge RVs.
Nice lobbying effort on the part of the RV industry to persuade all states to allow anyone to drive something the size of a city bus w/out additional training.
Here they just use the damn state highway!! Rant
There used to be a law in OR requiring slow moving vehicles to use pull over areas on highways. That was when the slow moving vehicles were tractors and other agricultural equipment. When their numbers decreased and are currently dwarfed by the numbers of McRVs (often pulling a smaller vehicles, occasionally pulling a car/SUV, which is connected to a flat bed trailer w/5 or 6 ATVs or a few motorcycles tied on), huge 5th wheels--the pull over law stopped being enforced.
Have to be nice to the fatcat tourists, even if they're driving 30 mph in a 55 mph zone. But not family farmers.
Food Politics » Today’s food politics of Ebola
"The FDA has stepped in and issued warning letters to three manufacturers marketing their products as possible treatments or cures. The FDA letters, which make interesting reading, went to:" . . . "A simple Google search of “supplements Ebola” turned up this kind of information this morning:
The Ebola virus can be destroyed naturally – despite what you’ve been told To date, not a single virus has been tested that is not inactivated (killed) by a large enough dose of vitamin C (ascorbic acid). "
"The ability of supplement manufacturers to claim health benefits for their products, and mostly get away with it, is a result of congressional action in passing the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA), which essentially deregulated these products."
We kind of bungled the 1812 invasion (excuse me, "liberation") of Canaduh, didn't we?
Surely you can't mean the British burning down the White House was the result of US bungling, can you? Not just an early manifestation of a desire to encourage the US housing industry?
BBC News - Rich white suburbs wants to split from Baton Rouge
I don't know how New Yorkers can cut across 7 lanes (it seems) of congested traffic when their exit approaches.
They share that characteristic w/Oregonians, Californians & Washingtonians (in my experience). Best were the people in MA, who would miss a turnoff and back up on the road (yes, everyone was expected to drive round that driver or wait) to the turnoff. I'd never seen anyone do that in NY.
merging on the parkways with their short acceleration lanes
yep, remember that. Come to OR, where 101 is "freeway", mainstreet and the street some people back or drive out onto from their driveway/home--even though the speed limit's 55 mph. Merge? Wait for a gap? Accelerate to highway speed? Why should I do that?
we used to call the LIE the longest parking lot in da world
15 miles in 45 minutes.
edit to add: Recently took about 50 minutes to get from mother's house on north shore (Nassau county) to JFK, lving house at around 7pm.
Always take the train if I can when I visit. Not that parts of 101 on the coast of OR were that much different this summer. Complete idiots in RVs, McPickups, any kind of vehicle. At least in NY people know where they're going and generally appear to know how to drive when they feel like it . . . .
that means you can drink unmilked coffee at age 12 or 13.
Dunkin Donuts strength coffee or espresso strength?
EconomicPolicyJournal.com: Commuter Pain Index
If NYC commute included LI, it wouldn't be 23 minutes. Friend's corporate employer moved from midtown to NJ, now her commute is close to 90 minutes each way instead of about an hour (and the hour included walking from midtown to Penn station to catch the LIRR). Fortunately she can work from home at least one day/week, although she prefers the office (except for the commute).
Wonder which company buys him out.
Or bankrupts him by suing for patent infringements.
We might go from smart phones to smart watches. Gotta admit, they're easier to carry around.
Dick Tracy’s Watch: The Most Indestructible Meme in Tech Journalism | TIME.com
Is there an 'anti-foaming' agent in your Chicken McNuggets? :: McDonalds.com
If you have a phone, why do you need a smart watch?
Because it's NEW. Geez.
Comrade Kristina wrote:
that is popular with lots of working class people they could lose it.
What's the estimated percentage of "working class people" registered to vote? (and how easy is it to register in FL?). It's not as if FL is a stranger to de-registration/creating difficulties in registering to vote, or voting.
US may appeal release of Guantanamo tape - Americas - Al Jazeera English
Wouldn't want the US to get any unfavorable publicity re: Gitmo so classify anything "embarrassing'.
Florida has some of the largest job gains in the country, but much of that growth has come from the tourism and retail industries, which rely heavily on low-wage and part-time workers. The median household income is lower than it was in 2007, and the number of Floridians receiving food stamps has swelled.
"We find that, averaged across all occupations, real median hourly wages declined by 3.4 percent from 2009 to 2013. Lower- and mid-wage occupations experienced greater declines in their real wages than did higher-wage occupations (see Figure 1, below)." National Employment Law Project | Unbalanced-Recovery
"housekeeping" jobs, food service jobs, saw decrease in real wages. Guess it's ok as long as the service business owners do ok.
Wonder where outsider was last night New Hampshire pumpkin festival turns violent; riot police disperse crowd with tear gas | OregonLive.com
seems like the circus got out of control.
If Oklahoma seceded, would anyone notice?
Cherokee nation is located in 14 of the northeastern counties of OK, they might notice. Maps
at least in Bush's case he probably did let the experts, such as they were, drive decisions.
Oh yeah, so much better: Bush's Interior Department Interfered With Scientific Work To Limit Endangered Species Protections
Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe - Los Angeles Times
Would that be expertise in corruption?
Or maybe it would be the "expertise" that led to the decision to invade Iraq? To call all the prisoners in Gitmo major terrorists when Rumsfield knew that was in no way accurate? Or maybe it was Bush's appointment of "experts" to FEMA? To the AG's office? FDA? Treasury? Bush administration cronyism and incompetence - SourceWatch
GMO in the deepest part of the industry is not what you imagine. It is a tiny fraction of the genome modification effort.
So you think it's not true that Dow's pushed for and gotten approval of Enlist? (cross-licensed w/Monsanto) Or that Dow's done it for fun rather then in expectation of making substantial profit?
If you're saying that Monsanto, Dow, et al, would like to patent the genes for every important crop in the US, i.e,. all of the food supply, including variants, I'd agree with you. India Sues Monsanto Over Genetically-Modified Eggplant - Yahoo News
Supreme Court Denies Family Farmers the Right to Self-Defense from Monsanto Abuse | Food Democracy Now
Public Patent Foundation Files for Revocation of Four Widely Asserted Monsanto GMO Patents | General | Times Higher Education
back to work for me.
Seriously...they wanted to be called liberals because they didn't like the label progressive...now they don't like that either.
The two of you sound so much like people I used to listen to talking about black people and women in the late 1960's and 1970's when I was a child/adolescent: what do those people want now? It was always THOSE people.
Those people who are not like us.
It isn't a label.
it's become a meaningless label because the definition shifts according to user.
Actually working to pay for your family's food, transportation, health care, cell phone and shelter is too much to ask.
Provide data to show that all or even most of the people receiving foodstamps (that aren't 65 or older) aren't working. And transportation--really, who's paying all of their own transportation costs? Aviation is heavily subsidized, unless you live on a private road and never go further, and never have anything delivered to your house by a road-using vehicle, you're not paying the total costs of all the roads you travel on . . .
Will liberals never cease?
Will some posters on HCN ever cease to use labels to criticise opinions they don't like/disagree with?
It's a mistake to lump together people who are anti-GMO w/people who oppose vaccination of their children.
Also, some of the people I've spoken to (although I don't live anywhere near Marin county,CA) don't question the efficacy or usefulness of vaccinations, but how many are required to be given in a short time to children, i.e,. individuals w/as yet poorly developed immune systems. It's easier/cheaper for the health care providers to give multiple vaccinations/visit but not necessarily best for a child's health.
Again, don't know what it's like in Marin county, but from what I've seen/read there is no monolithic "progressive" stance on GMOs or childhood vaccinations, and opposition is far more nuanced then is asserted in the linked post. Seems like an effort to demonize what the person perceives as any progressive movement in the US.
SNAP & Welfare programs ~1/8 of the TOTAL national budget. That doesn't include medicare & medicaid, which are another 1/4. That's 3/8 of the total spend - More than 1/2 of tax receipts.
Just about all of that money goes right into the economy--paying for health care (including insurer & hospital chain owner skim), buying food, paying rent, for clothing, etc. Maybe all of the food isn't grown in the US, and most of the clothing isn't made here, but the people are more likely then the wealthy to "buy local" i.e., shop at local businesses.
Charity care at hospitals has decreased since the ACA ("obamacare"), although hospital chains haven't necessarily reduced their charges in recognition of the decrease. http://www.hoocoodanode.org/node/20602 As Medicaid expands, hospitals see declines in charity care, self pay | Healthcare Finance News
Health Co-Op Leads Market in Low Rates, but Hospitals Appear to Be Pocketing Savings | The Lund Report
You're a chick?
Domesticated birds have internet connections and post on CR?
ordering stuff online all day to the greater glory of capitalism in gratitude for my participation.
ordering stuff online all day using other people's money/credit cards to the greater glory of capitalism in gratitude for my participation . . .
Ebola scare at Pentagon after woman vomits in parking lot
Turns out it was nothing. Apparently, she had just found out what they were paying for toilet seats down there....
Ebola scare at Pentagon after woman vomits in parking lot
Turns out it was nothing. Apparently, she had just found out what they were paying for toilet seats down there....
It will only get worse once the flu season gets going, since vomiting, fever, can be symptoms of the flu as well as Ebola.
Given how the corporate media seems to function these days, I wonder what else is happening (is the TPP coming up for vote?) that fostering hysteria re: Ebola in the US/focusing on the possible inadequacy of a for-profit medical treatment system in screening for a new (to the US) & serious illness, avoids coverage of..
Like EPA approval of Dow's Enlist (cross-licensed w/Monsanto), or rolling out of 2,4-D (component of Agent Orange) "Ready" GMO soy & corn. Or the TPP. Or maybe a new invasion?
dilbert dogbert wrote:
are they covered by wealthy elite.
Mostly, maybe a few of the H of R people aren't. So, all members of Congress too. No need for the bloviators to travel.
Restrict travel of all Americans until the US has proven to be free from new cases of ebola for 42 days after the last known infection.
Include all members of the military, CIA/NSA/contractors & wealthy elite & I agree.
Comrade Scott wrote:
I don't see anybodying PAYING street sweepers.
In the "good old days" they did it for tips, Crossing sweeper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"In the mid-nineteenth century, New York was struck by an epidemic of children working and living on the streets. According to the Matsell Report and accounts from middle-class observers, there were thousands of children working as peddlers, baggage handlers, crossing sweepers, or petty criminals.
Many of these children were the offspring of immigrants, mostly from Ireland and Germany, who flooded into New York in the 1840s and 1850s. These parents, struggling to survive in the city, sent children out to work or worked such long hours themselves that their children went unsupervised. Some children lived on the street, sleeping in boxes or occasionally in cheap lodging houses, having no homes or families to return to. Others spent all day working on the streets before returning to their families." Page not found | History of Poverty & Homelessness in NYC
This makes a lot of sense. Do travelers from West Africa, regardless of their route, carry passports and/or visas ?
Have you never talked to/met someone who talked their way across a border w/out a visa? I have. Friend w/an Argentinian passport, no visa for the nation we were entering, she talked her way through. Talked her way back out too. I wonder too if medical personnel traveling w/a group have to go through the same process that other travelers do.
1 currency now -yogi wrote:
No, the regulator can't redefine fraud or immunize an agency or bank that it regulates.
regulators sometimes seem to do what it would seem they can't. For instance, SSA is placing restrictions on the Privacy Act (when it will and will not provide documents/records concerning an individual) that aren't in the statute. They can do it until/unless they're sued--and lose in federal court--because the court decides it's too blatant a statutory violation to defer to agency "interpretations" of regulations.
The group, which has seized swathes of land in Syria and Iraq, has been flying the planes over the captured al-Jarrah military airport east of Aleppo, said Rami Abdulrahman, who runs the Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights.
Another reminder that it was a major mistake the disband the Iraq military after the "roses thrown in our path" US invasion. Even Garner was against it (or so he said later).
"The problem you have there is, with that order, you suddenly tell somewhere between 300,000 and 400,000 soldiers that they're out of jobs, and they're all still armed. Now, whether they became terrorists, we don't know. But to me, that's just not a good beginning. Sun Tzu says you don't want to go to bed at night with more enemies than you woke up with that morning. Well, we went to bed with a whole lot more enemies that night than we had begun the day with.
But again, I don't fault Ambassador Bremer for that. I think that was another decree that he brought over in his briefcase; I think he was told to do that. Now, that idea may have germinated with Walt Slocombe or somebody on his staff, but it had to get approved [in Washington] somewhere. That's another incredible decision of magnitude that I just don't think that would have been invested in [Bremer]. It had to be made over here. ... Interviews - Lt. Gen. Jay Garner (ret.) | The Lost Year In Iraq | FRONTLINE | PBS
Maybe that's what happens when you're a member of an elite--you come to believe that all others are dupes, trash, "primitives" and you can do as you wish w/them. Nothing learned from Vietnam
Does that mean that the ability to sue/regulate on basis of "fraud" is pre-empted or narrowed? Or, if the lender doesn't engage in any of the listed practices, but does engage (or know that others are) in other fraudulent practices, they're home free? Taxpayer once again pays for pieces to be picked up and put back together or just pays for the broken pieces?
Why is it considered to be good for people to put down only 3%? I thought Fannie & Freddie were still being reviled for being so careless, what happened to that meme?
How about class-warfare or wealth redistribution?
Marxist terminology that IDs you as a commie.
Disillusionment w/the "Arab Spring" has set in.
Tunisian Confidence in Democracy Wanes | Pew Research Center's Global Attitudes Project although it's based on only 1000 face-to-face interviews.
Facepalm && brilliant!
Friend in her 70's told me that when she was a child & suffered from earaches, MD recommended insertion of small amounts of radium in her ears--and yes, her parents went along with it (they trusted the MD).
Friend can hear well, hasn't developed cancer (yet), so . . . she's never said how long the radium was in place.
Some ideas don't go away.