Recent comments by azurite

Rob Dawg wrote:

As if "The Daily Beast" weren't enough of a warning.

You're probably correct if you think that the Bush family teflon would probably prevent Bush's wife's trying to cheat Customs and his daughter's past substance abuse problems (the DB left out Bush's son's "just a rich kid's drunken pranks/high spirits" experiments w/law enforcement) from being much of a problem. Not sure how much of a problem his conversion to Catholicism would be. It was a big deal at the time of JFK's election. I don't know how much of an issue it would be now, or that his wife was a Mexican-American immigrant.

I don't think JB was good governor, even if he seems to have been fairly well liked while in office, I have no reason to believe he'd be a better president.

"In the book's chief analogy, Geithner and the administration are firefighters battling a cataclysmic financial arson. They can punish the arsonists by letting the big banks burn down, but the greater good is to save them, though not necessarily their shareholders, and prevent the collapse of the whole financial system.

That theme is echoed in the private papers, but they also make clear that Geithner believed the rescue came up short on multiple fronts.

"We sought a very powerful enforcement response by competent authorities," he writes in a May 2013 memo titled "On the Politics of the Crisis Response" and slugged "TFG draft." "This didn't turn out as we'd hoped, in part because we didn't give it enough attention."'

"Besides several memos like the one from 2013, the papers include transcripts of informal conversations Geithner had with his collaborators while working on the book. In some of this material, a visceral distrust of populists, business groups, labor leaders, politicians and the media emerges, as does a sense of being unfairly under siege."
In Private Papers, A More Candid Tim Geithner Speaks Out - ProPublica

No mistrust of banksters apparently and funny how he & others weren't able to give "enforcement" sufficient "attention" despite its supposed importance to him.

Doc Holiday wrote:

I was a think'n the other day about the war on cancer, the one which has basically been lost by the medical folks that apparently wage battle against stuff.

Kinda hard to "win a war" (if that's what it is, maybe it's flawed framework for thought), when there are so many barrages from your own side. Agent Orange, PCBs, TCDD (from incinerators, from pulp & paper mills--although less then 15 years ago), unknown synergistic effects of the various toxic compounds, etc. And it's not as if the MNCs have stopped manufacturing & selling toxic compounds. There there are hormone disruptors (long term effects of exposure?).

There's always been hazardous substances (arsenic, foxglove/other poisonous plants) but the late 19th & 20th centuries ratcheted up production.

But there's not much interest in prevention except for quitting cigarettes (which have a huge number of compounds added-which ones are a "trade secret"), even there there's ambivalence--tobacco corporations are known to violate part of the agreement--to stop marketing to younger people, and, oh well, not much is being done. Advertising to other nations has greatly increased, as has rate of smoking. Profits before health. Hard to "win" that kind of "war."


"Rooming and boarding houses reported a 62.6 percent increase in sales (from $811.2 million in 2007 to $1.3 billion in 2012) and a 25.9 percent increase in annual payroll (from $163.7 million in 2007 to $206.1 million in 2012). This industry includes workers’ camps and other businesses that provide temporary or long-term accommodations."

From the tip sheet for the Census housing report--the release didn't say how the housing is distributed, if it's mostly in North Dakota because of the oil boom or the start of a national trend. Anecdotally, two rooming houses appeared in one of the smaller towns on the east side of the coast range (OR) around the time the bubble burst--they're still in business. Also hearing of some larger houses (5-6 bedroom) in little towns on the OR coast being turned into rooming houses--rooms rented out, shared bathrooms & kitchen.

Mary wrote:

NIH are basic and applied research grant-making institutions.

NIH does clinical trials. People receive treatment during those trials. For Parents and Children - NIH Clinical Research Trials and You - National Institutes of Health (NIH)

dilbert dogbert wrote:


You don't think a decrease in Pb levels has been compensated for by increases in BPA, pthalates, Hg, TCDD, PCBs, et al?

Comrade Gibbon wrote:

gasoline for now.

Except for avgas, at least in the US.

yuan wrote:

We need to look with new eyes at things which we thought were not vulnerable.”

GMO/technology is the "answer" (it's ok to pollute because humans can engineer organisms & create a new world that's far better designed then nature ever did and who needs nature anyway?).

Besides, by the time humans are forced to notice they've screwed the earth up for themselves and all but some bacteria, fungi, viruses & some insects, "technology" will have made space travel possible and it'll be off to a new planet/world(s) for the wealthy & their most necessary slaves (assuming robots can't perform all needed services) and the rest left to die and that'll be ok because it was just social darwinism at work or maybe there'll be a new religion that will "explain"/justify why it just has to be that the rich/powerful escape and the rest suffer & die. Snark

gab wrote:

How should I assess his intellect in light of this comment?

Certainly interesting that someone who so believes in the effectiveness in gun use in promoting public safety in the US should think it's worthwhile using the legal system for any public purpose. Why doesn't he suggest (and of course, show us how it's done by personal demonstration) that anyone who doesn't have a gun on him/her at a shooting should be lined up against the wall and shot--by those who are superior in their duty to public safety and have guns handy. Who needs due process, etc., any legal system other then a bunch of people w/guns and plenty of ammunition? That seems to be the implication. The justice and/or legal system is inadequate, all hail justice by gun.

lawyerliz wrote:

Some someday there will be inflation

I've seen noticeable increases in the prices of a variety of foods, produce, grains, meat. Price of gas at the least expensive stations w/in 60 miles has dropped below $3/gallon for the first time in I don't know how long, I doubt it'll last long. Water & sewer rates, et al the other stuff that goes on that bill, up 30% in the past two years, supposedly only increasing by 5% next year. Base cost of electricity has increased, power provided by an electricity cooperative so still less expensive (at the moment anyway) then it is 25 miles north where power is provided by private utility. "Tax" & rate increases keep the internet/phone bill going up, slowly, but steadily.

Local restaurant food prices have increased, as have hotel room charges. Residential rents have increased. Property taxes have increased (assessed value of house has not)--paying off bonds. It's clear there's going to be yet another proposed bond levy (general obligation backed by property taxes) on next year's ballot.

But it's only inflation when wages go up right? And that's not happening for many people.

Feckless Ness wrote:

Explored the area from Bandon to Florence for several days and fell in love with it.

Cape Blanco state park is my favorite OR coast state park, Port Orford Head park (day use only) my favorite day use park, latter was once a Coast Guard station and you can still see the remnant of a track that carried the rescue boats down the beach cliff into a tiny bay and from there into the open ocean. If you've been through Gold Beach you might've noticed its a nice (given its location) cafe/bookstore-if it's still open (not far from Cape Blanco). I haven't been able to get down there for a few years and it seemed to be struggling the last time I was there.

I like that part of the coast but the politics are pretty bad, Curry county's lost almost all of its services, and except perhaps in a few of the towns (there are few towns) is effectively unpoliced and I'm not sure about any other emergency services either--fire, etc. One of the small towns along 101 in Curry county seems almost abandoned. Not sure how much better Douglas county is (probably not as underfunded).

Also think Cape Sebastian recreation area or whatever it's called is wonderful. I haven't been to the newer parks (purchased in the last 5 years or so) near the OR/CA border. Here's one Oregon State Parks and Recreation Department: Crissey Field State Recreation Site --have you been there? I thought I read something about state parks acquiring another but can't find it.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Funny how so many now seeking to bring about national socialism now suffered so greatly under national socialism then.

you can call a party of totalitarianism w/genocidal goals whatever you want, including "national socialist". Or communist or Republican or Democrat. Unless you believe that the policies towards Native Americans in the US weren't genocidal for a significant period of US history.

And you could be looking to divert yourself via baiting others.

Feckless Ness wrote:

I'm looking at Coos Bay/North Bend & Coquille areas. No big cities.

Not sure about Coquille, but Coos Bay/North Bend area is pretty depressed & has been since the 1980's. Couple of younger people who came here from CB talk about how much less drugs there are here (and it's a problem here).

Beautiful harbor though and the port had the sense to buy the rail link & apply for rehab funds when then RR owner tried to abandon the line. If you are there to look at property be sure to visit the line of coastal state parks close to CB--starting w/Sunset Bay state park. Exploring The Cape Arago Beach Loop on the Oregon Coast - Oregon’s Adventure Coast The link refers to Charleston (tiny town), the Charleston port (very small) is owned/part of the Port of Coos Bay.

Not sure why the link refers to Charleston as the start of the loop as I remember going there via Coos Bay (signs in the town that direct you towards 'state parks. You can walk most of that loop (occasionally on the road, mostly on paths), there's a trail head near the parking lot at Sunset Bay park. It's a great walk/hike on a nice day w/some wonderful views. I had a dog w/me, was able to let her off lead for about 60% of the walk, couldn't enter Shore Acres park, no pets allowed, but the path goes around the park.

poicv2.0 wrote:

I particularly like being stuck behind tourists who are doing 20 in a 40 zone, mildly speeding up and then down again. And absolutely refusing to pull over to let the 15 cars piled up behind them pass Facepalm

One of the reasons I like mass transit. If I'm on a bus I'm usually less annoyed by drivers--I can safely do something besides fume, if on a train, I can snicker at all the people sitting in slow traffic. And some of those slow drivers might take mass transit if it worked for their trips (only some, some would drive until they die because that's their "right.")

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

They aren't all No one 17 and under admittedholes here either of course, it's just that those are the ones you notice and it can be more than just a nuisance at times.

do they pull over for emergency vehicles or block them too?

It's almost fun to watch an incompetent RV driver think about and then attempt to pull off the road (or to pretend to) to let an emergency vehicle w/lights flashing, etc., go by. One reason some RV drivers don't use pullout areas is because they're afraid, they (probably w/good reason) don't trust their ability to safely maneuver their vehicle in anything other then a huge parking lot. Quite a quandry for those drivers.

Feckless Ness wrote:

Azurite - I'm thinking about buying rental property in OR. How's yer landlord-tenant law up there?

Residential or commercial? For residential, it's somewhat protective of tenants rights but there's no cause eviction for month to month residential tenancies (30 days notice required if tenant's been there less then a year, 60 days if a year or longer) unless tenant can show eviction is retaliatory. Some restrictions on lease provisions (money penalties for breaking lease, etc).

One difference I've noticed--in NYC, apt windows have to have child guards (if there's a young child in the household), in PDX & suburbs, they don't see to be required as I see news articles re: a child falling out of apt. or other rental window from time to time.

I know little about commercial--except that I see storefront/office vacancies in every city/town I've been in, from PDX to Corvallis/Albany to central coast. I think commercial L-T law is pretty standard but don't really know.

Opinion on residential L-T depends on who you talk to: some tenants will say LLs abuse, a few LLs (or their legal reps) will go on for some time on how some horrible tenants take advantage of notice requirements for FEDs, etc, to avoid eviction.

Residential rents seem to have increased in the last 4-5 years in most of the northwestern OR metro areas, also on the central coast (probably north coast too). Quite a few people buying coast residential properties for VRD (vacation rental dwellings), and in some coast towns some restrictions have been imposed on the VRDs because of problems w/loud parties, trash, etc., but overall I think town gov'ts welcome VRDs, etc., because they can tax/impose fees for permits.

Requirements to rent have increased--Security, cleaning deposit, pet deposit, first & last, credit check, etc.., was far easier to rent in Eugene in the 1980's when I arrived, iirc I had to pay only a moderate cleaning deposit.

edit to add: there's a HCN poster (whose name I can't remember at the moment, sorry, it's not Yuan) who, I think, lives in PDX or PDX metro who seems to know alot about residential & commercial RE in that area).

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

The reality here is more like the friendly 'family farmer' takes up one and a half lanes of a two-lane highway with a vehicle that's likely over weight limits and finds it convenient to move his rig between fields at 4-5pm, 20mph

I haven't seen much of that, more a farmer driving whatever, tractor, etc. down a state highway, partly on one lane, partly on the verge. Most seemed to keep an eye on the traffic behind them and would look for a wider verge to pull over onto to let some of it go by. I think they did that because of the pull over law.

There have always been so many other slow moving vehicles (some chip trucks, other types of trucks) that the farmers always seemed like the most "polite" of them.

Where I live now it's log trucks (numbers increasing in the past 2 years), chip trucks (added fun of bits of wood chips left in their wake), and huge RVs and people driving 20+ mph below the speed limit for reasons known only to themselves.

Lobbyist Ben Dover wrote:

If your RV has enough power they are all in the way. Crazy

RV may have the power, but many of the drivers lack either the brainpower or the coordination. 30-35 mph and apparently afraid (or unwilling) to use pullouts/pullovers that can accommodate their huge RVs.

Nice lobbying effort on the part of the RV industry to persuade all states to allow anyone to drive something the size of a city bus w/out additional training.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

Here they just use the damn state highway!! Rant

There used to be a law in OR requiring slow moving vehicles to use pull over areas on highways. That was when the slow moving vehicles were tractors and other agricultural equipment. When their numbers decreased and are currently dwarfed by the numbers of McRVs (often pulling a smaller vehicles, occasionally pulling a car/SUV, which is connected to a flat bed trailer w/5 or 6 ATVs or a few motorcycles tied on), huge 5th wheels--the pull over law stopped being enforced.

Have to be nice to the fatcat tourists, even if they're driving 30 mph in a 55 mph zone. But not family farmers.

Food Politics » Today’s food politics of Ebola
"The FDA has stepped in and issued warning letters to three manufacturers marketing their products as possible treatments or cures. The FDA letters, which make interesting reading, went to:" . . . "A simple Google search of “supplements Ebola” turned up this kind of information this morning:
The Ebola virus can be destroyed naturally – despite what you’ve been told To date, not a single virus has been tested that is not inactivated (killed) by a large enough dose of vitamin C (ascorbic acid). "

"The ability of supplement manufacturers to claim health benefits for their products, and mostly get away with it, is a result of congressional action in passing the Dietary Supplement Health and Education Act of 1994 (DSHEA), which essentially deregulated these products."

robj wrote:

We kind of bungled the 1812 invasion (excuse me, "liberation") of Canaduh, didn't we?

Surely you can't mean the British burning down the White House was the result of US bungling, can you? Not just an early manifestation of a desire to encourage the US housing industry?

Outsider wrote:

I don't know how New Yorkers can cut across 7 lanes (it seems) of congested traffic when their exit approaches.

They share that characteristic w/Oregonians, Californians & Washingtonians (in my experience). Best were the people in MA, who would miss a turnoff and back up on the road (yes, everyone was expected to drive round that driver or wait) to the turnoff. I'd never seen anyone do that in NY.

tg wrote:

merging on the parkways with their short acceleration lanes

yep, remember that. Come to OR, where 101 is "freeway", mainstreet and the street some people back or drive out onto from their driveway/home--even though the speed limit's 55 mph. Merge? Wait for a gap? Accelerate to highway speed? Why should I do that?

tg wrote:

we used to call the LIE the longest parking lot in da world

15 miles in 45 minutes.

edit to add: Recently took about 50 minutes to get from mother's house on north shore (Nassau county) to JFK, lving house at around 7pm.

Always take the train if I can when I visit. Not that parts of 101 on the coast of OR were that much different this summer. Complete idiots in RVs, McPickups, any kind of vehicle. At least in NY people know where they're going and generally appear to know how to drive when they feel like it . . . .

robj wrote:

that means you can drink unmilked coffee at age 12 or 13.

Dunkin Donuts strength coffee or espresso strength?

tg wrote: Commuter Pain Index

If NYC commute included LI, it wouldn't be 23 minutes. Friend's corporate employer moved from midtown to NJ, now her commute is close to 90 minutes each way instead of about an hour (and the hour included walking from midtown to Penn station to catch the LIRR). Fortunately she can work from home at least one day/week, although she prefers the office (except for the commute).

josap wrote:

Wonder which company buys him out.

Or bankrupts him by suing for patent infringements.

Outsider wrote:

We might go from smart phones to smart watches. Gotta admit, they're easier to carry around.

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robj wrote:

If you have a phone, why do you need a smart watch?

Because it's NEW. Geez.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

that is popular with lots of working class people they could lose it.

What's the estimated percentage of "working class people" registered to vote? (and how easy is it to register in FL?). It's not as if FL is a stranger to de-registration/creating difficulties in registering to vote, or voting.

US may appeal release of Guantanamo tape - Americas - Al Jazeera English

Wouldn't want the US to get any unfavorable publicity re: Gitmo so classify anything "embarrassing'.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

Florida has some of the largest job gains in the country, but much of that growth has come from the tourism and retail industries, which rely heavily on low-wage and part-time workers. The median household income is lower than it was in 2007, and the number of Floridians receiving food stamps has swelled.

"We find that, averaged across all occupations, real median hourly wages declined by 3.4 percent from 2009 to 2013. Lower- and mid-wage occupations experienced greater declines in their real wages than did higher-wage occupations (see Figure 1, below)." National Employment Law Project | Unbalanced-Recovery 

"housekeeping" jobs, food service jobs, saw decrease in real wages. Guess it's ok as long as the service business owners do ok.

Outsider wrote:

If Oklahoma seceded, would anyone notice?

Cherokee nation is located in 14 of the northeastern counties of OK, they might notice. Maps

bearly wrote:

at least in Bush's case he probably did let the experts, such as they were, drive decisions.

Oh yeah, so much better: Bush's Interior Department Interfered With Scientific Work To Limit Endangered Species Protections

Former Interior Secretary Gale Norton is focus of corruption probe - Los Angeles Times

Would that be expertise in corruption?

Or maybe it would be the "expertise" that led to the decision to invade Iraq? To call all the prisoners in Gitmo major terrorists when Rumsfield knew that was in no way accurate? Or maybe it was Bush's appointment of "experts" to FEMA? To the AG's office? FDA? Treasury? Bush administration cronyism and incompetence - SourceWatch

Rob Dawg wrote:

GMO in the deepest part of the industry is not what you imagine. It is a tiny fraction of the genome modification effort.

So you think it's not true that Dow's pushed for and gotten approval of Enlist? (cross-licensed w/Monsanto) Or that Dow's done it for fun rather then in expectation of making substantial profit?

If you're saying that Monsanto, Dow, et al, would like to patent the genes for every important crop in the US, i.e,. all of the food supply, including variants, I'd agree with you. India Sues Monsanto Over Genetically-Modified Eggplant - Yahoo News

Supreme Court Denies Family Farmers the Right to Self-Defense from Monsanto Abuse | Food Democracy Now

Public Patent Foundation Files for Revocation of Four Widely Asserted Monsanto GMO Patents | General | Times Higher Education

back to work for me.

Cinco-X wrote:

Seriously...they wanted to be called liberals because they didn't like the label they don't like that either.

The two of you sound so much like people I used to listen to talking about black people and women in the late 1960's and 1970's when I was a child/adolescent: what do those people want now? It was always THOSE people.

Those people who are not like us.

Rob Dawg wrote:

It isn't a label.

it's become a meaningless label because the definition shifts according to user.

bearly wrote:

Actually working to pay for your family's food, transportation, health care, cell phone and shelter is too much to ask.

Provide data to show that all or even most of the people receiving foodstamps (that aren't 65 or older) aren't working. And transportation--really, who's paying all of their own transportation costs? Aviation is heavily subsidized, unless you live on a private road and never go further, and never have anything delivered to your house by a road-using vehicle, you're not paying the total costs of all the roads you travel on . . .

Rob Dawg wrote:

Will liberals never cease?

Will some posters on HCN ever cease to use labels to criticise opinions they don't like/disagree with?

It's a mistake to lump together people who are anti-GMO w/people who oppose vaccination of their children.

Also, some of the people I've spoken to (although I don't live anywhere near Marin county,CA) don't question the efficacy or usefulness of vaccinations, but how many are required to be given in a short time to children, i.e,. individuals w/as yet poorly developed immune systems. It's easier/cheaper for the health care providers to give multiple vaccinations/visit but not necessarily best for a child's health.

Again, don't know what it's like in Marin county, but from what I've seen/read there is no monolithic "progressive" stance on GMOs or childhood vaccinations, and opposition is far more nuanced then is asserted in the linked post. Seems like an effort to demonize what the person perceives as any progressive movement in the US.

bearly wrote:

SNAP & Welfare programs ~1/8 of the TOTAL national budget. That doesn't include medicare & medicaid, which are another 1/4. That's 3/8 of the total spend - More than 1/2 of tax receipts.

Just about all of that money goes right into the economy--paying for health care (including insurer & hospital chain owner skim), buying food, paying rent, for clothing, etc. Maybe all of the food isn't grown in the US, and most of the clothing isn't made here, but the people are more likely then the wealthy to "buy local" i.e., shop at local businesses.

Charity care at hospitals has decreased since the ACA ("obamacare"), although hospital chains haven't necessarily reduced their charges in recognition of the decrease. As Medicaid expands, hospitals see declines in charity care, self pay | Healthcare Finance News
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Cinco-X wrote:

You're a chick?

Domesticated birds have internet connections and post on CR?

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

ordering stuff online all day to the greater glory of capitalism in gratitude for my participation.

ordering stuff online all day using other people's money/credit cards to the greater glory of capitalism in gratitude for my participation . . . Fixed It For Ya

Oman wrote:

Ebola scare at Pentagon after woman vomits in parking lot

Turns out it was nothing. Apparently, she had just found out what they were paying for toilet seats down there....

It will only get worse once the flu season gets going, since vomiting, fever, can be symptoms of the flu as well as Ebola.

Given how the corporate media seems to function these days, I wonder what else is happening (is the TPP coming up for vote?) that fostering hysteria re: Ebola in the US/focusing on the possible inadequacy of a for-profit medical treatment system in screening for a new (to the US) & serious illness, avoids coverage of..

Like EPA approval of Dow's Enlist (cross-licensed w/Monsanto), or rolling out of 2,4-D (component of Agent Orange) "Ready" GMO soy & corn. Or the TPP. Or maybe a new invasion?

dilbert dogbert wrote:

are they covered by wealthy elite.

Mostly, maybe a few of the H of R people aren't. So, all members of Congress too. No need for the bloviators to travel.