Recent comments by azurite
Rob Dawg wrote:
That is a prison term first offense no excuses felony in these parts.
It's now against state park regulations (state parks has jurisdiction over the beaches in OR, esp those w/in state park boundaries but also overall,) so beach "rangers" and OSP. But enforcement? Only if you get the license plate of the vehicle of the people w/the dog.
How often does anyone in CA get reported/arrested/prosecuted for that offense?
Yoringe wrote:
Pox on them....
We can do that by injection.
Vonbek777 wrote:
Lately, I go to just watch people, especially kids displaying behavior completely devoid of empathy,
Noticed last summer a mother & child clambering around on rocks exposed by low tide. There was a great blue heron not 10' away from them (their activity scared off the heron) and as far as I could tell, they'd never even noticed the bird was there. Oblivious to the world (natural world) around them.
Observed (and sometimes asked people to cease) sic their dogs on the shorebirds, usually the birds are 1/20th the size of the dog. Or not stop their dogs (or children) from chasing after or throwing stuff at the birds to "make them fly". Not everyone, but enough. And yes, it's a problem--not only does it happen so often that the birds use up calories they need to survive, but sometimes those dogs kill the birds. Or they'll learn from the experience to chase & kill something else.
Yoringe wrote:
People who pay " Premium" for unprotected sex deserve what they are getting...
My Head Just Exploded
Problem is, the prostitute is just as likely--if not more so---to "get" something that they don't "deserve."
Rob Dawg wrote:
No because we don't have soda in our diet but as a gap or treat. Drinking soda at home or as part of a healthy diet is
I see. Was just thinking the juice from some of your pomegranates might mix well w/seltzer, lots of ice cubes . . .. 
josap wrote:
a series where cameras go into small businesses and employees are compelled to criticise underperforming colleagues. At the end, they choose one co-worker to recommend for firing.
Continuing or reinforcing the concept of divide and conquer for the peons/workers. Since it assumes the employees would never cooperate and take over the business i.e., decide to "fire" the owner. Or turn on the people w/the cameras.
Rob Dawg wrote:
Wow. Just wow. Talk about not understanding your consumer. We buy soda. We take it on trips, we take it to the cabin, we take it places. We do not pay 30¢ per can. We will not pay more than 30¢ per can. Pepsi is bumping up against a value ceiling and does not understand. The sad part is Pepsi can deliver any flavor for a profit at 15¢ per can but is protected by duopoly.
If the price increases (or discount decreases) would you begin to consider getting a seltzer machine & concocting your own sodas?
sportsfan wrote:
Meanwhile today's Republicans are much more sophisticated than Strom's Dixiecrats ever were:
Not in every way: The Official Guide to Legitimate Rape
energyecon wrote:
It burnsss usss, teh ironiez...
Oklahoma Senator who voted “no” on Sandy aid calls home-state tornado “totally different” - NY Daily News
Thanks for the article, I'd been wondering what the Congressional rep response would be, pleased (kinda) that my expectations weren't disappointed.
Rob Dawg wrote:
Wind farms in Oregon?
More likely continuation of the "school payments" instituted in 2000 to replace decrease/loss of timber receipts in counties w/alot of Natioal Forest land.
Rob Dawg wrote:
Bullsh¡t. Ventura County alone grows $626m of strawberries alone. Farm Bureau of Ventura County. The 2008 Ventura County Crop Report. What crops are growing now in Ventura County. Where crops grow in Ventura County. FAQ's about Ventura County farming.
According to the 2011 report (wasn't able to copy a quote), there was an increase in value despite decrease in acreage planted (in strawberries) and a decrease in per acre production. So while VC is reporting different numbers it also reported, in 2011, fewer strawberries planted & harvested. The number you cited is also gross revenues. Difference in Gross Annual Revenue & Net Business Income | Chron.com
Finance_Fan wrote:
Amazing USA even cannot afford tomatoes for them (and use ketchup instead) but has plenty of $ to subsidize those with $1 Million mortgages.
I live in a fairly poor county and there are veg gardens at most of the schools, the produce is used in school cafeteria meals (apparently the food service, Sodexco, is willing to incorporate local produce into their meal service). There are several community gardens w/in city limits ("city" is a 12,000 rising to 25,000- during-the- tourist-season sized town) that donate just about all of their produce to the local food bank/pantry. It's not enough, but people do what they can.
What are you doing to put more fresh produce in the meals of low income people?
KarmaPolice wrote:
Oh shit....who's gonna pick my strawberries?
Who's growing strawberries?
"But times have changed, and the influx of imported strawberries makes it challenging for berry farmers to turn a profit. “You can’t raise them for profits anymore in strawberries in handmy opinion, and that is a direct result of imports,” he says.
Last year, more than $220 million worth of strawberries were imported into the United States,1 compared to slightly more than $1.5 million worth of berries grown domestically.2 Even though Oregon is known for its high quality berries, supermarkets across the United States usually offer fresh and frozen imports from Mexico, Chile, Turkey, Poland, and other foreign countries." Crops in Crisis: Oregon Strawberries | Food & Water Watch
Declining timber prices are bad news for the PNW since its elected reps at the federal level have been working on various plans to increase how much timber is logged in the PNW. Doesn't seem to matter to them if raw logs are shipped out, although they (Wyden, Merkley) have pushed for legislation requiring local labor be used to log & transport the logs to ports.
Wyden’s forest quest | Opinion | The Register-Guard | Eugene, Oregon
A few of the comments to this opinion article are interesting--a few repeat what dryfly's said about manufacturing--some of the jobs (in the timber industry) are never coming back because of automation.
Former Idealist wrote:
These medical bills are so f-cked up, no normal person could possible make sense of it.
That's the idea.
Another middleperson: the medical advocate Health Advocacy - Medical Help - Oprah.com
It's not like Congress or any of the states could pass laws to force billing to be clearer or anything like that.
ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:
We had a major price spike in the past week here in SD. Up by over $0.40 in less than a week, and now more expensive than diesel.
Price for regular has been $3.86 (lowest I've seen) inland to $3.99 on the coast for the past couple weeks. Diesel still more expensive. In western OR.
Quite a few megaRVs on the move anyway, plus people coming to fish for halibut.
creditcriminalslovetarp wrote:
I see nothing to change the world, enviroment we live in....for the better of all people
Nope, YouTube - Who Owns Your Body? unless innovation is owning a piece of a human.
KarmaPolice wrote:
Turn off those phones:
Turning Off IPhone Critical to Pilots Citing Interference - Bloomberg
If people won't shut them off while they drive, why should they when they fly?
sdtfs wrote:
the best you can say is that it's handled to industry standards
I don't even know that. I don't know that the standards set by whomever (perhaps EPA) haven't been so heavily influenced by the industry that EPA is supposed to regulate (in the public interest) that the standards industry allegedly has to comply with (assuming there's sufficiently funding & personnel to determine if violations have occurred, and to prosecute or impose violations if found AND that that actually happens and the consequences aren't a wrist-slap fine) actually protect the public or the nearby by water.
There have just been too many examples of corporation violation of what pollution control laws exist (and that are sometimes enforced at the state or federal level) for me to feel sure that (1) the standards of safety/pollution control are adequate to prevent hazard/pollution and/or (2) existing standards are being complied with.
I agree that the article is poorly written, I don't know if that's because the reporter failed to do his/her job or what the reason is. On the rare occasions I've had good knowledge of an issue covered in a news article, I've felt that the issue/problem was well & accurately covered maybe 50% of the time. Depends partly on who the reporter is working for. At one time (maybe 10-15 years ago?), the Wall St. J did some great investigative reporting.
burnside wrote:
In this instance, coke's handled properly,
How do you know?
creditcriminalslovetarp wrote:
there is one every couple miles needing new tank that was lined..
Yep, just one example: Gas station rules may hurt families, but could help investors
burnside wrote:
The pits and yards are lined. Even coal slurries in remote locations are lined.
You mean like this pond was lined & safe? Monsanto reviews mine safety after holding pond failure in Idaho | OregonLive.com
or this waste is safely contained? St. Louis Landfill Fire | Politics News | Rolling Stone
burnside wrote:
Who other than the owners need to bother themselves about what it's used for.
I think the location is some cause for concern. It rains, you have runoff from that heap going into the water. Whatever else in the in the river is being exposed to it, and it flows further downstream.
skk wrote:
I can't place it - but there's a marvellous description of the pre-Great War world of the prosperous Englishman - in some book I've come across.
Not everyone was prosperous:
"In 1906, children were provided with free school meals. However, many local councils ignored this system, as it was not compulsory for them to provide the free meals and the cost to the council was far greater than was subsidised for. The provision of free school meals was made compulsory in 1914, in which year fourteen million meals per school day were served (compared with nine million per school day in 1910[7]), most of which were free. In 1912, half of all councils in Britain were offering the scheme. The government realised that they could not fight the First World War with a force of malnourished and ill children, when they had to conscript. Also, following an unfavourable report by the Board of Education's inspectors on infant education in 1906, school provision for children under five was restricted (previously, the normal age for the entry of working-class children into full-time education had been three).[8] In 1907, the Notification of Births Act came into being, which sought to quantify and analyse the causes of (and ultimately further reduce) infant mortality.[8]
Medical inspections began in 1907 but many poor families could not afford the cost of the doctors fees to get treated; it was not until 1912 that medical treatment was provided. However, education authorities largely ignored the provision of free medical treatment for school children.[11] A tax allowance for children was introduced in 1909[12] to help families on low incomes.[13] This allowance of £10 a year was introduced for every child below the age of 16 in the case of income tax payers whose income fell below £500 per annum (this rebate was later doubled in the 1914 budget).[14] Liberal welfare reforms - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
That was in England, conditions in Ireland were probably much worse. Dublin Lock-out - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Interesting that one of the motivations for feeding children was so they could grow up & fight wars.
Mountain of Petroleum Coke From Oil Sands Rises in Detroit - NY Times
"Detroit’s ever-growing black mountain is the unloved, unwanted and long overlooked byproduct of Canada’s oil sands boom.
And no one knows quite what to do about it, except Koch Carbon, which owns it.
The company is controlled by Charles and David Koch, wealthy industrialists who back a number of conservative and libertarian causes including activist groups that challenge the science behind climate change. The company sells the high-sulfur, high-carbon waste, usually overseas, where it is burned as fuel. "
Beach litter mars U.S. – and world's – coastlines | McClatchy
some of the plastic, the little bits, are almost impossible to pick up unless you're willing to spend 30 minutes or more in one place, that and the styrofoam. The old stuff breaks into tiny bits (which some sea animals mistake for fish eggs, etc., & swallow). Lots of styrofoam showing up the past few winters.
The plastic bits have shown up along north central OR coast beaches in the last 5-8 years irrc. That's in addition to all the other crap.
edit to add: guess I helped kill the thread
prairiedog wrote:
Pray tell, what exactly is an "agricultural fire"? Anyone?
When I first moved to western OR, the grass seed farmers used to burn their fields every year to (I think) kill some varieties of fungi or some problem that developed from years of growing the same thing year after year. The resulting air pollution was exempted from the CAA. The practice has been banned for a number of years.
Clearcut (timber) areas are also burned over sometimes--here it's called slash burning. That would be agricultural if you think of private timber (and some public forest) plantations as monocropping trees.
lawyerliz wrote:
What about a New York City mansion?
You mean Manhattan? I'm not familiar enough w/Manhattan to know what's a mansion or not these days, but some of the old ones, like the Frick, are museums (perhaps some are embassies and private clubs too, not sure) and have little to no land attached--they might've at the time they were built but I think most of the wealthy like the Vanderbilts, Warburgs, Morgans, would build something huge in Manhattan-- but only did the huge plus acreage outside of the city like in upstate NY (along the Hudson), LI, Newport, RI, and some purchased ranches too. I used to wonder if TR had started a fad for buying ranches in the west, the family (Scottish immigrant who made millions from shipping) who created the Planting Fields ::Planting Fields Foundation:: also bought a ranch in WY, where they spent quite a bit of time.
I'm more familiar w/what's on LI since that's where I lived for 10+ years, and some of the old mansions/arboretums, etc., were w/in bicycling distance. One of the mansions (former Marshall Field IV estate w/functioning dairy farm, now Caumsett State Park) was leased by a school I attended for use for a variety of programs & classes. One of my friends lived in the mansion since she assisted w/at least one of the programs, so I stayed there off & on. Wonderful place at the time, great view of the LI Sound from the stone terrace of the main house. It was/is not a full sized mansion, one of the wings, w/the family bedrooms had burned down years before.
lawyerliz wrote:
Tell me what the difference is? Between a Im Lovin It! and a mansion?
Where I used to live (LI) it was the amount of land what went w/the structure. Mansions had up to 300 acres and I think the smallest acreage is 40 acres, maybe by now it's down to 10 for more "contemporary" mansions. McMansions can be on 1/3 acre or less, depends on setbacks and how easily variances are granted.
Off topic,
For those who are concerned about the cost growth of "entitlements" maybe if the US didn't let the private insurers leech off of Medicare, it might operate at less of a loss.
Medicare Advantage programs were introduced during the Bush administration. Obama hasn't urged Congress to get rid of these programs.
justaskin wrote:
between tech sessions I was reading about the decline of the North Atlantic fishery
"so long, and thanks for all the fish"
Crying
You can pay through the nose for this instead. Don't you agree it's better if large corporations control the food supply instead of people being able to go out & catch fish for dinner? (i.e., enjoying nature's bounty) Or plant your own garden & save seed from the open pollinated varieties? Salmon Nation: Genetically Engineered Salmon
sum luk wrote:
different looks: Household Debt and Credit Report - Federal Reserve Bank of New York
I can't figure out how to link to the chart, but the NY Fed's 1st quarter report has a 3rd party collections chart indicating the number of people w/collection actions against them is stable, the amount collected/person is decreasing. According to the report, collections data covers medical debt and debt owed to utilities, or debt that effects credit ratings but isn't reflected in a credit report. The number of people w/collections actions against them soared during the supposedly ended recession. That number hasn't decreased.
That would be consistent w/what I've seen anecdotally in small claims court, as well as construction contractors for repairs/minor remodeling, auto repair debt and LL/tenant disputes. I think the SC limit in my area is $10,000.
ee beat me to it!
yuan wrote:
Apparently using GMO soy too
the label clearly states non gmo.
Not the one I looked at, and I looked at the ingredients label too.
yuan wrote:
titanium oxide: a 100% natural mineral (like NaCl). also used in cheese making.
Really? A little research indicates that titanium oxide is or may be aka titanium IV dioxide which, when airborne is classified as a carcinogen. Titanium oxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia and TITANIUM DIOXIDE || Skin Deep® Cosmetics Database | Environmental Working Group Might be a concern for the employees of the business. Natural has no legal meaning in the US as far as food goes. Chances are good what's used in the food product is synthesized.
If natural means, found in nature, poisonous mushrooms are found in nature
Apparently using GMO soy too (didn't see anything on the label or list of ingredients that indicated using certified organic or GMO free). Some have raised issues regarding the safety of GMO soy (eating it). Some have alleged that allergies to soy have increase substantially since gmo soy products have been introduced/incorporated into many foods. Of course it could be that the increase is also due to the significant increase of soy or soy products have been incorporated into foods you wouldn't think (w/out reading the label) that it would have any soy at all in it--or just the repeated exposure has sensitized a susceptible or sensitive part of the population.
Growing soy, particularly GMO soy, as it's often grown in the US, may have resulted in the death of living beings, due to use of herbicides and pesticides, so as a meat alternative because eating meat means killing another being, it's not the best substitute.
"Installment lenders were not included in a 2006 federal law that banned selling some classes of loans with an annual percentage rate above 36 percent to service members — so the companies often set up shop near the gates of military bases, offering loans with annual rates that can soar into the triple digits." The 182 Percent Loan: How Installment Lenders Put Borrowers in a World of Hurt - ProPublica
Wonder how that happened?
Desperation/low income plus poor math skills = paradise for usurers.
Rob Dawg wrote:
There are likely all kind of heretofore unappreciated trace enzymes and other building blocks along with suspended trace elements difficult to adsorb otherwise.
I agree w/the caveat that it probably depends on how the livestock was raised. Right now the monocropping of livestock and CAFO system probably introduces too much of what we don't need and not enough of the useful compounds/trace elements.
May also depend on the part of the US, example is western OR tends to be selenium poor (rains alot) and at least w/horses it wasn't uncommon for some people to provide a feed supplement (or salt block) w/added selenium. Opposite situation in eastern OR (much drier). Assuming that horses & cud chewers have somewhat similar nutritional needs despite differences in their digestive systems. CAFOs force an unnatural/unhealthy diet on cattle anyway
Number of undocumented children who cross US border alone has tripled | McClatchy
edit to add: largest numbers come from those nations the US has, um, dabbled in the affairs of.
yuan wrote:
bed of white beans: it tastes like chicken.
Beyond Meat™
be nice if manufacturers could leave out the " sugar, sodium alginate, dipotassium phosphate, titanium dioxide (color), . . . " Chicken-Free Strips – Lightly Seasoned | Beyond Meat™
ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:
Legal Animal Meat/Byproduct, it's what's for dinner!
Or lab grown BBC News - Lab-grown meat is first step to artificial hamburger
josap wrote:
Nope, that was in 2009.
Then you had a year or two (or four) free housing.
Didn't LL's longest lady stop paying in 2007? I thought LL mentioned awhile ago that the longest lady had finally heard from the mortgage holder.
"Lawyers and tax officials estimate that hundreds of people have been locked up in the last year, suspected of tax evasion. Under the new laws, someone who owes the government more than 10,000 euros in taxes can be arrested on the spot and given the choice between paying up or being put behind bars. While held, the suspect can wait as long as 18 months before the prosecutor decides on a formal charge.
Despite those efforts, of the estimated 13 billion euros that government officials say is owed by Greece’s 1,500 biggest tax debtors, only about 19 million euros has been collected in the last two and a half years." Greek Tax Crackdown Yields Little Revenue - NY Times
Be interesting to get Haralambos' POV on this.
Outsider wrote:
Srsly. They'll haul you into court if you are truant before age 18.
NH gov't has funding to pay for people to track the kids down? Take every one of them to court?
Outsider wrote:
I'm pretty sure they don't expect families to homeschool their kids. Public education is a law, no?
The state/county is required to provide some kind of education, yes. Although some types of assistance you have to ask for--I talked to some people 10 years ago whose daughter had MS and was unable to get up & down the stairs at her school. Instead of asking for tutoring at home because the school wasn't accommodating the daughter's disability, the parents let the daughter drop out of school--the daughter was 16 so it was "legal."
What I meant was that some people don't like their kids having to ride a bus for 45 minutes (which my friend's kids had to do) to get to school--particularly when their kids are in elementary school, they want them in a smaller, local school. So some people homeschool. Home schooling is much more common here then where I grew up--and it's not just "christians" who do it, but a variety of parents for various reasons.
edit to add: if you read further in the article, there's an issue as to whether these counties have to provide basic services (which would include education) and if the residents won't tax themselves enough to provide those basic services, can the state tax them and use that money to provide those services (i.e., force the counties to fund their local gov't).
Small gov't in action:
Two years ago I went through Langlois, which is a small town in Curry county (beautiful shoreline/beaches in Curry county). Highschool was closed and up for sale. Lots of for sale signs. There'd been a small Montressori school several years before, it was closed. I don't know if all the remaining school age kids in town were being bussed, homeschooled or what. Or if the families had moved.
Outsider wrote:
This link from Yves' site also:
FOCUS | Monsanto Has Taken Over the USDA
A recent study links Roundup to autism, Parkinson's, and Alzheimer's. --> Study Links Monsanto’s Roundup to Autism, Parkinson’s and Alzheimer’s | NationofChange
RoundUp is so yesterday. Now that Monsanto's helped to create (or evolve) many many Roundup ready weeds (and insects), it wants to return to even deadlier stuff: USDA says more review needed for new Monsanto, Dow GMO crops
| Reuters
dilbert dogbert wrote:
Dickens did too.