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Should be almost BFF time.
also, Tanta Vive !
Thunder in the west.
Pa. monsignor becomes 1st US Catholic official convicted for mishandling abuse complaints - The Washington Post
It's a good start. Keep moving on up the ranks!
They have been painting homes blue and white and selling them to Greek immigrants.
No bf for you.
Unclear if Syria downed Turkish jet: Turkish prime minister
| Reuters
pavel.chichikov wrote:
A war with Syria is not on the current agenda.
If Turkey was savy, they'd blame the Syrian jet on the Kurds.
Despite the recent uptick in home prices, we do believe that 2012 will end on a lower level than 2011.
a ledge
i concur
mp wrote:
I'm trying to find a reason to keep the lights on."
...
thus is exposed the underlying flaw in Judeo-Christian thinking.
perhaps you should think about becoming a Buddhist?
they really don't need a reason...
the Apollonian part of our consciousness is way overblown in its importance.
I am surprised that given the reduced volume, rise in not arms length transactions, extended escrow periods and lengthening time between paired sales transactions that C-S has the temerity to continue to claim three significant digit accuracy.
Eric wrote:
I agree.
Re: "Despite the recent uptick in home prices, we do believe that 2012 will end on a lower level than 2011."
Delete that ... fast!
Needs to read: Jobless Food Stamp Recovery Ignites Housing Boom; prices to soar, as old people get older ... and old homes to increase in value due to shortage .
NAR isn't gonna like this ...
"Pa. monsignor becomes 1st US Catholic official convicted for mishandling abuse complaints - The Washington Post
It's a good start. Keep moving on up the ranks!"
Must be a "different" church.
Several ways to know if Europeans are buying expensive homes in your neighborhood:
I'm sure there are more.
poic wrote:
Most of the traditional Catholics I know will have no problem with this verdict.
And officially out of the running for parent of the year honors --
Pet piranha bites off toddler's fingertip - Chicago News and Weather | FOX Chicago News
If only the real world was more like golf.
Spanish Golfer Lara Disqualified After Caddie Tries to Hide Club - Bloomberg
KidPsych wrote:
My generation grew up with it. I can vouch from many years of 12-step meetings, it's not something people harbor resentment over or blame their problems on. I'm referring to spankings and the occasional swat - not beatings or abuse.
Eric wrote:
With the number of serial pedophiles in the Catholic Church, this would be a endless and somewhat futile excersise.
10% of our species have sociopathic tendencies, combined with rampant pedophile abuses, quite a job.
But, this film shows we must continue:
The Woman in the Dunes - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
DICTION CORNER: choose wisely.
repression
oppression
I forecast that things will be "unexpected".
some investor guy wrote:
Six. Insist that the local bank can handle more than one currency.
some investor guy wrote:
They wear track pants with loafers.
This is the one I am waiting for...Cardinal Dolan handing out 20k payments to pedophile priests to "go away quietly". No following the law, no calling the police, no help for the victims, just hush money for the perps.
ABC News - ABC News
For anyone who missed bank downgrade thursday, Bank Ratings 2012
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
Those sometimes are packing---
There is no need to raise your voice or say a bad word. You do with with attitude, engagement, and humor.
Feckless, you're in the wrong field.
The kids of today need you.
It's rare to find an adult who can help them understand limits without using humiliation techniques.
I tried to get Euros from BofA in Los Angeles once. They made United AIrlines look efficient by comparison.
Yancey Ward wrote:
"In the last forty years, Americans have gone from citizens to consumers, from consumers to consumables. As citizens, we existed to participate in society by producing goods. As consumers, we existed to proclaim our individuality by consuming more goods than our neighbor (who we didn’t know then, and still don’t know now). As consumables, we exist solely to incur debt and be consumed by it.
We are trapped in the Debtrix, coppertops, and there is no escape. There is no Morpheus in this debt matrix (he’s been rebooted as an actor), there is no Neo (another actor), and there is no red pill.
For the vast majority of us, those of us in what used to be called the middle class, our value to the Debtrix is measured by the size of our credit line and our propensity to use it. So make sure to leverage up and spend borrowed money on things you don’t really need or want."
-TAO
some investor guy wrote:
Try to find a bank in rural north Florida that will maintain an account in GBP. Unpossible. The only places I could find were big money center banks, and they wanted a minimum balance, usually 25k.
It's gotten a lot easier lately. At Wells Fargo, you order them online, they debit your account or charge a credit card, and Fed Ex the euros to your home. You don't even have to talk to a person.
adornosghost wrote:
Problem solving through complexity works ...
... until it doesn't.
Outsider wrote:
Thank you for that, Outsider. I hope to make an equally important contribution in my own field.
I'm referring to spankings and the occasional swat - not beatings or abuse.
Feckless, my general feeling is that MOST any kid can be disciplined without a whooping. If you're inflicting violence on your child, you're probably not doing the parenting thing right. I work with kids with severe disabilities who often appear out of control, yet I'm able to keep them under control with some good behavioral methods. What I worry about is not parents who can keep themselves under control while administering a spanking (although I think there are better ways to discipline), it's that there is an entire class of parents who cannot control themselves, and they think it's okay to resort to whatever manner of physical violence they feel is necessary. I'd rather the general message be out that it's not okay to do. There are numerous logical arguments against it - 1) if you inflict violence, you are modeling it and thus making that mode of behavior more likely for the child in the future - 2) you become a punisher and thus make it more likely that a child will try to avoid you in the future - which I think is probably no a goal of parenting - 3) kids habituate - and you need to inflict increasing intensity to the punishment in order to make it work.
There is of course a cultural divide on this one, with African American families much more likely to use corporal punishment than others. And I have read well-reasoned articles by practitioners who work with excessively violent children with disabilities, and I can't judge them for whatever tactics they use to keep themselves safe.
Did you try any broker dealers for GBP?
Eric - the last couple of days of Sullivan vs. Dragas has been quite a soap opera ... the BOV has convened a meeting for tuesday to determine Sullivan's fate ... Gov McDonnell weighed in today ... said he wants closure come tuesday ... or he's going to sh!tcan the entire board come wednesday.
http://www.governor.virginia.gov/utility/docs/LetterToUVA-Board.pdf
Lanai Holds Lots of Potential, and Questions, for Ellison - WSJ.com
William Sontag Wrote:
I think Mr. Bernanke should just print $600 million, and buy the island for the entire nation!!!
That's money better spent!
I assume you have never had someone else's bad kid start punching your kid to try to take something that doesn't belong to them.
KidPsych wrote:
Very good post! Thanks.
adornosghost wrote:
Well, mp isn't going to find a reason to keep the lights on in this crowd.
Sitting here on our laptops(!), with Internet(!) access via broadband(!) and WiFi(!), not out looking for second jobs or dumpster-diving for food scraps, just wasting electricity, time and spirit.
Ironic, hypocritical, and pathetic all at the same time.
Well, nothing bad is happening in the world now that hasn't happened before, and worse, yet here we all are.
And with that, have a good evening, all.
Sebastian
some investor guy wrote:
Banker spawn?
Idiot spawn.
KidPsych wrote:
For example, autistics who have meltdowns they can't control. Beating them makes everything much worse.
some investor guy wrote:
Having kids made me very aware of those around me ... much easier to insulate ourselves as individuals or couples imo.
where all the bank failures at?
Very good post! Thanks.
Thanks, RE, that's a very kind comment. I'd like to think that my endless time in school and time working has given me some useful ideas.
Does this include a "naughty mat"?
*
volker the viking wrote:
Here
Moody's downgrade gives edge to safe-haven banks
| Reuters
km4 wrote:
Larry faces the same problems priming the pump on Lanai as does the island of
Con Dao. ...
but Con Dao may be more breathtaking and pristine...
YouTube - Capitalism Hits the Fan - Richard Wolff
I just quoted this guy because he commented on the fiscal crisis of the state theory.
Some in the comments section to this lecture on youtube claim this academic doesn't mention central banking for about an hour and then defends them... so might want to check this out... see if it's true...
Surprises me since it seems their estimates of individual house prices is straight out their backside.
I guess maybe it validates the law of averages.
KidPsych wrote:
My hats Off to you and them KidPsych. Tough row to hoe.
catching up on
thread:
yuan wrote:
> I like my list better:
i LIKE! with perhaps some effective size limits on banks, new regulator of ALL state and federal banks and investment funds, regulation of derivatives, and a declaration that corporations are not people and are just creations of the state for the state's and public's convenience. Oh, and return to pre-Taft Hartley labor laws and criminalization of companies that interfere in any way with forming and conducting collective bargaining.
I'm sure I could think of 10 more zingers to make the 1% blood sucker's fluids boil.
I assume you have never had someone else's bad kid start punching your kid to try to take something that doesn't belong to them.
Uhm, no. I need more information, ages, level of cognitive ability before I can tell you exactly how I'd react. If you're talking about little tykes, and it does sound that way, I'd say no, I wouldn't react with violence.
KidPsych wrote:
Meh. We of Nordic extraction prefer psychic scaring - lasts longer and cosmetic surgeons can't hide it.
some investor guy wrote:
Sebastian?
KidPsych wrote:
Absolutely - but they were probably going to get control of the puck anyway...
dryfly wrote:
LOL. humor from the Far North
volker the viking wrote:
On holiday in Europe.
KidPsych wrote:
I hear you Kid. I would argue that with all the video games and institutionalized violence kids are exposed to today, a good spanking is the least of their problems. I was seldom spanked and didn't habituate to it - it wasn't random or spontaneous and it was always deserved, as far as I recall. And I felt far more punished by my parent's lack of attention than by a spanking.
I've posted many times about the problems young cops face because they were never spanked or yelled at growing up. They go to police academy and the first time they get yelled at, they crumble. They get out in the field and suddenly there is real anger and violence and they're not prepared for it. If they get into minor trouble on the job, to them it feels like the end of the world because they've never been in trouble before. Cops are killing their bosses and committing suicide over this stuff.
Ironic, hypocritical, and pathetic all at the same time.
Wonder why economists on the far left identify all the causes of the recurring economic and finance crises effectively including seeing the fiscal crisis of the state but somehow skip looking closely at central banking monetary policies exacerbating the situation and making the business cycles worse..
My hats Off to you and them KidPsych. Tough row to hoe.
Thanks, Bobby. You guys are really filling up my good feelings piggy bank. You know, it is hard to do, but I get a lot back from parents when we can get this under control, so it's very very fulfilling.
You need to use a sock full of sand so you don't leave bruises.
And always scope out the perimeter of the playground to find out if there are any cameras. If there are you may need to wear
, 
and 
KidPsych wrote:
Maybe your kid should. Every kid should be taught to stand up for him/her self. Walking away after somebody wrongs you just teaches the bad guy they can get away with it.
I'm sure I could think of 10 more zingers to make the 1% blood sucker's fluids boil
How about closing the big corporation tax loopholes and special treatment they get in these areas.
The deficit wouldn't be so huge if they had paid their 'fair share' for decades...
Sebastian wrote:
For reflection:
"Labor’s Paradise Lost" by Robert Skidelsky | Project Syndicate
... And, beyond a certain point, it is also economic madness. This is not just or mainly because we will soon enough run up against the natural limits to growth. It is because we cannot go on for much longer economizing on labor faster than we can find new uses for it. That road leads to a division of society into a minority of producers, professionals, supervisors, and financial speculators on one side, and a majority of drones and unemployables on the other.
Apart from its moral implications, such a society would face a classic dilemma: how to reconcile the relentless pressure to consume with stagnant earnings. So far, the answer has been to borrow, leading to today’s massive debt overhangs in advanced economies. Obviously, this is unsustainable, and thus is no answer at all, for it implies periodic collapse of the wealth-producing machine.
The truth is that we cannot go on successfully automating our production without rethinking our attitudes toward consumption, work, leisure, and the distribution of income. Without such efforts of social imagination, recovery from the current crisis will simply be a prelude to more shattering calamities in the future.
http://i.imgur.com/a2aU0.jpg
nice of them to lay down for Germany
Feckless Ness wrote:
I guess Jesus was just a hopeless wimp, then.
Cops are killing their bosses and committing suicide over this stuff.
Feckless, I worked with a gang diversion unit many years ago as I was starting up. At the time, I couldn't imagine what my friends on the force had to deal with. (One was training to be a therapist, so he was better prepared for it.) They're very easy people to judge, but being on the other side of violence and hatred has to be hard. I friend of mine who does intake for a high risk unit was nearly in tears yesterday from the tragedies that had befallen her just this week (two suicides, etc.) Being macho doesn't really align well with allowing yourself to be emotionally vulnerable enough to accept therapy.
The video game thing has really just popped up on my radar due to the fact that I am counseling a couple of more neurotypical teenagers. There's a terrific book called Boys Adrift that lays out the challenges presented by violent video games, particularly to boys. It's not just the violence (according to the author), it's the fact that the games allow teen boys to experience the "will to power" artificially and makes it less likely for them to go do anything in the real world. Then there's the obvious neurobioogical problem of training someone's brain to react violently to a situation. He argues that there is a definite difference between watching movies and playing games. Not my area of expertise, so I'm going to take his word for it at the moment.
"the relentless pressure to consume "???? WTF?
The debate about "keeping up with the Jones" is mostly a distraction. Plenty of people talk about cars and flatscreens. That's not where most of the money is going. It's going to mortgages, medical, and for people who went to college, student loans.
In recent years takehome pay has been fairly level. Most of the difference is going to medical care/insurance.
Complexity is killing the US healthcare system, and making it enormously expensive. If any changes are to make significant inroads into cost, it will require simplification. Not necessarily reductions in choice, but much simpler operation and administration.
poic wrote:
People tend to keep an eye on those guys at the playground.
merchants of fear wrote:
Hmmmm, a few facts help.
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/418/uspercapitagdplongterm.png
" the challenges presented by violent video games, particularly to boys. "
You mean like the immense waste of time you could be using to do other things.
I gave up video games in college. I was really good at them, but they took up too much time.
- NY Times
“Without Angie, you wouldn’t be here,” bellowed the German fans, referring to the multibillion-dollar bailouts Greece has received from European partners, first and foremost Germany.
"People tend to keep an eye on those guys at the playground."
I guess you need to do "smash and grab" style instead.
Hmmm...
Speaking of which, time to go home to the family. Hope everyone gets a
or two.
scone wrote:
Jesus in North America was singularly responsible for the extinction of the Woolly Mammoth.
Rob Dawg wrote:
I'm sorry about your loss:
Feckless Ness wrote:
which, of course, raises the question: "how did they ever get to be cops in the first place?"
sig, there's an established network to provide 'best practices' info, and if ever you become downcast about human ability to sort out complex and competing interests and arrive at fine outcomes, the subject makes for perfect reading.
One of the elements I most hoped to see in healthcare policy - more perhaps than any other - was to have a robust framework for sharing and implementing best practices throughout the medical complex. Very difficult to do. But we won't have it perfectly until we venture to attempt it, however imperfectly.
Rob Dawg wrote:
But he does a good job on the hedges.
Rob Dawg wrote:
When my brain spins at high speed, it has the processing capacity of cottage cheese.
Doc Holiday wrote:
http://www.catsandbeer.com/uploads/2008/03/wacky_and_packy.jpg
Maybe your kid should. Every kid should be taught to stand up for him/her self. Walking away after somebody wrongs you just teaches the bad guy they can get away with it.
Again, Feckless, I'd have to know more about the situation. I agree, kids have to learn to fight back. My fourth grade girl had a boy say to another boy, "I dare you to rape -- my daughter's name". My daughter's response was, "I'll send you home with a black eye." I told her I've never been more proud of her.
It's a tough one, Feckless. On the one hand, there is a hyper sensitivity to violence to the point that kids who write violent stories ("Oh no!!") can be suspended. On the other, there are some super aggressive, violent kids out there. If one of those kids on the video of the bus attendant did something to my daughter, I would be hard pressed not to react with violence.
Zillow's data always makes me sleepy and I can't figure out why.
some investor guy wrote:
Mean Household Income Growth
Elvis wrote:
Quit your weeping.
some investor guy wrote:
Giant black hole. People who don't play video games have a 99.99999% chance of getting better grades in college. Moreover, playing video games all day is 1% attractive to co-eds. So, bad grades and no sex. Just say no.
JP wrote:
Why am I weeping? That only occurs when I watch Ghost and I'm not watching it now.
Elvis wrote:
But I'll wow them with my hacky sack skills right ... right?!?!?!?
TJ and The Bear wrote:
This is much better:
http://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/charts/census/household-income.html?household-incomes-mean-real.gif
same real source.
KidPsych wrote:
yep, but they want you docile and accepting
volker the viking wrote:
Summer school.
you're a dumb ass
RE wrote:
They're both good, but the disjoint age-wise (65+ vs. the rest) on the one I posted is a major eye-opener.
Rob Dawg wrote:
Comment by Doc Holiday from thread 'Reports: European Leaders to Push for €130 billion Stimulus'
volker the viking wrote:
Lay off the Zima, volker. It is not becoming in you.
California voters narrowly reject new tobacco tax - Yahoo! News
we'll prolly call it The Gray Revolution
TJ and The Bear wrote:
"My chart porn's hotter than your chart porn."
KidPsych wrote:
Alternatively, the girl might have said something like, "I have an iPhone and I just published what you said to the entire world." I think public shaming works pretty well. And maybe it helps a little on the issue of violence against women in general. Whereas, violence per se only solves the immediate problem. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a total pacifist, but I've had a lot of experience with violence, and the usual tit for tat solution doesn't solve the long-run problem, it only "opposes" the immediate problem. IMO.
Elvis wrote:
you are truly not very good at this
scone wrote:
engages the hostility
Increasing tax on tobacco only increases crime and casualty rates at convenience stores. That is why I say yes to protecting hard working 7-11 employees, and I say no to new tobacco taxes.
volker the viking wrote:
You shouldn't repeat your mother on this board. Be original.
sportsfan wrote:
This is why the 2013 budget is not balanced. This tax was reasonable but failed because the electorate is in no mood to feed the Sacramento money addiction.
TJ and The Bear wrote:
I agree but that is to be expected with entrenched establishment wealth. Isn't that what "death taxes" are about?
Why can't they just float some more muni bonds to pay for everything every wants, but doesn't want to pay for, in California?
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a total pacifist, but I've had a lot of experience with violence, and the usual tit for tat solution doesn't solve the long-run problem, it only "opposes" the immediate problem.
Oh, I agree, scone. What followed was a series of uncomfortable emails and meetings between me and the other parents (and the principal). The boy who said the words was shamed by his parents and had to meet with the school counselor. What I made clear to the parents was that, although their son could hide behind the "I don't really know what rape means" defense now, come middle school, I would have called CPS or the cops.
scone wrote:
With any luck, it'll go viral and total strangers will issue death threats.
ad
volker the viking wrote:
I think if you have experienced violence, then it sort of enters your soul, and makes you want to do violence yourself. This has happened to me, and there are things I have done I am not proud of, that bother me 50 years after the fact. Killing for no reason, with no respect, no hunger and no spirituality, is against nature.
you are derivative
scone wrote:
Are you the cereal killer we all hear about in those bathtubs full of milk jokes?
scone wrote:
ask any veteran
volker the viking wrote:
Insurance on a synthetic derivative tranche would have been a better come back, but Aa2 for effort.
enjoy
Rob Dawg wrote:
My thought is that whoever made the decision to put this on the primary ballot should be barred from working with propositions in the future. Had it been on the general election ballot, I'm sure it would have passed overwhelmingly.
Time to release the Kraken. Avoid the beach. Later.
chickenshit
KidPsych wrote:
You are really good at this, no snark. I think a lot of success in life is knowing the right thing to say at the right time, and feelers are good at that. I'm an INTJ, so I get a bit Spock-like, which is awkward.
volker the viking wrote:
Yes, I let my Kraken do the talking for me.
I thought you left
volker the viking wrote:
Yes, I'm a Navy brat. I grew up with several wars.
scone wrote:
As a kid there was a group of kids in school who bullied anyone they could. When there attention turned to me ignoring it or trying to avoid them only made them try harder and escalated beyond taunting, taking books, knocking food off the table to physical assault at which point I responded in kind. Needless to say 3 on 1 I got my ass kicked but I must have hurt 1 or 2 of them enough that they never bothered me again.
Worked in the long run for me in that case. And before you say "you should have told someone" - the group in question was savvy enough to engage in their bullying when teachers weren't around and/or off school property. We fought when they surrounded me on the way home and began shoving me and kicking me.
My son had a similar issue with a bully - he was more afraid of getting in trouble with the school than any other consequence. I told him he had every right to defend himself and that I did not care what the school thought. After he was shoved from behind in an attempt to knock him down, he responded by punching the kid in question. Guess what - he was never bothered again.
Some kids only understand pain - they like to inflict it on others and usually don't like to have it inflicted upon them.
Rob Dawg wrote:
Being outspent 4:1 helped a bit too.
BTW: I saw many of the Yes on 29 ads, every one of them had Lance Armstrong. When his latest doping scandal broke a few days after election day, my first thought was: Looks like payback.
war is a racket
sportsfan wrote:
The fear was of too many tax initiatives on the fall ballot. That usually takes a few points away from each. People given one chance inclined to vote 2/3rds yes will vote one yes, one no for 50% which is closer to 2/3rds than is yes, yes and 100%. Jerry Brown really really needs campaign funding and feet on the ground this fall and with the national Dems taking the State for granted it needs to be union money and people.
poic wrote:
People in California want prisoners in prisons. Actually they want them in prisons in California. They are tired of paying taxes to support incarceration of their prisoners in other states. Sure, it was fine in 2006 or '07 when the ratio was at about 175% of maximum capacity and the economy was booming, but now that we've come way down to about 135% of maximum capacity and the economy sucks we should get our prisoners back along with the jobs that come with them.
We just need to build more prisons first. So let's float some more muni bonds to 'git-it-done.'
I'm an INTJ, so I get a bit Spock-like, which is awkward.
Thanks again, scone. I noticed a few weeks back that you'd given a rather riveting portrait of what someone obsessed with eating might look like, and I thought, it's humbling when someone who is (likely) not a psychologist understands a psychological issue so much deeper than I do. Cheers.
Mike in Long Island wrote:
I'm not saying 'you should have told someone" necessarily, unless a relative is raping you. The violence I'm talking about is far beyond peer bullying. I strongly suspect most of the people in prisons doing time for violent crime have been raped repeatedly themselves. For them, it's as close to "love" as they have ever been.
JP wrote:
The Spitzer variety.
Mike in Long Island wrote:
I'm having my
s now so I have an excuse to exercise later.
"BTW: I saw many of the Yes on 29 ads, every one of them had Lance Armstrong. When his latest doping scandal broke a few days after election day, my first thought was: Looks like payback."
They've been after Lance Armstrong for years. I highly doubt payback for Yes on 29 ads has anything to do with it.
The current investigation is a result of information on doping that came to light during the previous criminal investigation. Doping isn't a criminal act but that information can now be used by USADA.
poic wrote:
Cycling seems like one of those sports where only dopers win ... so as soon as someone does they become suspect.
KidPsych wrote:
Thanks, you're really good. The kids you serve are lucky. As for me, just to be clear, I've been greatly influenced by Unitarianism, Gandhi, Thoreau, Jesus, and Buddha. I believe in ahimsa, non-violence. I figure, on the whole, the alternative has not been a big success.
Mike in Long Island wrote:
Word. We're not talking geniuses here -- psychology is usually lost on them.
Apparently they have witness statements from 10 people about his doping. That's pretty damning IMO.
poic wrote:
Where the hell were these people when it was supposedly happening?!? It's not like his tour wins were recent.
volker the viking wrote:
Twins had been doing it for the Yankees for years... part of being out on the periphery.
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
Lance Armstrong was just off the charts. There weren't any charts to explain how someone could win 7 consecutive Tour de France titles. That would be like a ball landing in the same number slot 7 times in a row on a roulette table and we know that can't happen in real life:
The Great Wheel malfunction at the Rio, and Matt Goss returns to Caesars Palace - The Kats Report - Las Vegas Sun
"Where the hell were these people when it was supposedly happening?!? It's not like his tour wins were recent."
Keeping quiet, just like every other major biking team out there. Why would they come forward unless compelled to? It's not in their interest to do so.
volker the viking wrote:
Damn good one too.
poic wrote:
Well, cynically speaking... If everyone's doing it, then it makes it a pretty level playing field and he still deserves it... unless they just want to shut down the tour altogether.
Seems there was always this undercurrent of resentment in France against a foreigner dominating "their" tour.
dryfly wrote:
And not as critical in eliminating the Red Sox with the wild card rules preventing the usual 1-2 division finish.
http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-06-22/central-bank-gold-manipulation-“steady-ever”-avoid-“paper-gold”
I KNEW IT!!
It's the man keeping Gold down. And the PPT.
poic wrote:
Besides since every other team does it - who do you sign up with afterward? Who is going to let you into their inner circle after you squeal on the big guy? LA brought money and attention to the sport like no other - you going to be the guy to crap in the punch bowl? The only ones who were bitching were the other teams and then only carefully since - they more than likely had issues of their own.
dryfly wrote:
Figured when I got rich my international conglomerate would have a defense subdivision (just like Jonathan Hart did) so that I could play with all the cool toys.
Still waiting to get rich.
Rob Dawg wrote:
We know our role - be the door may for the NYY - oh and develop their talent. Do that and you can pretend to have a chance.
Yes there's a resentment against a foreigner winning "their" tour.
No it doesn't make doping right. Plenty of European tour winners have lost their medals due to doping violations.
dryfly wrote:
Damn good one too.
The best there is. "Fortunately, just when things were blackest, the war broke out." --Joseph Heller
It's like talking if you're a cop. If you go public in biking you can kiss your career good bye.
God bless revenue sharing
maybe if we told the Germans it was about baseball
poic wrote:
Really? Why?
TJ and The Bear wrote:
they also serve who sit and wait
poic wrote:
Absolutely - but a lot of them got caught mid-tour and expelled. The thing that was different with LA is he somehow beat all the tests. That is why the Olympics keep samples for years so that if advances in analysis come along they can rerun and potentially strip. That will have some bit of a chilling effect on the dopers. However since they all make their money within a few years of winning if they don't get caught soon after it doesn't matter. In that respect LA has more to lose. He has a lot of endorsements still.
dryfly wrote:
Always has been ... the modern century would seem unique in that anyone would think otherwise.
poic wrote:
Tell me if any one sports pops ou: List of doping cases in sport - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
And no, not the kayaker.
poic wrote:
Never said it made anything right. I think the steroid guys ought to be taken out of the baseball record books and banned from the HOF.
p.s.: I've always thought Pete Rose should be in. He's an HOF player, not a manager, and he bet while he was a manager. But hey, I hate baseball anyway.
scone wrote:
because (and you earned it) dumb ass, anything you say will be used against you
volker the viking wrote:
Looked like the Greek soccer understood it today.
Born 50 years too early Pavel.
dats what I been sayin'
"Really? Why?"
It's not just isolated doping of one biker. Many times it's a large team effort with a team doctor, manager and many biker's involved. A complex, very involved process.
If you can't be trusted to keep quiet then who is going to hire you?
In fact they're not just going after Lance Armstrong they're going after 5 people on the team.
Rob Dawg wrote:
They should change it to 5 digits, it would impress more people.
"Absolutely - but a lot of them got caught mid-tour and expelled. "
I was blown away by how many of the great riders of previous generations admitted to doping.
RE wrote:
Does this chart only go to 2008/2009?
This is a housing and housing finance blog. How's the swing in that cycle look in the last 10 years?
poic wrote:
yeah, I been wonderin', dey ain't laid a glove on 'im, who did he piss off?
maybe his peeps pissed someone off
Rob Dawg wrote:
This one...
Manny Ramirez... Dominican Republic... Baseball... "Performance Enhancing Drugs"
Love it - list too long obviously. A Spaniard biker farther up had a similar entry but they listed it all - read like a pharmacy inventory.
TJ and The Bear wrote:
A Frenchman hasn't won since 1985.
Some kids only understand pain - they like to inflict it on others and usually don't like to have it inflicted upon them.
Word. We're not talking geniuses here -- psychology is usually lost on them.
TJ, again I do appreciate that there are kids that are pretty much unreachable, but the kids I work with really can't be called geniuses either (in fact most are non-verbal), yet through a system of rewards and punishers they learn fast. I had a client who was functionally blind, deaf and wheelchair bound who we taught how to hit a button when he needed to eat. Prior to that, he'd through a screaming head-butting fit. The key is to create a system that allows the kid to get what they need without resorting to violence. I'm not talking about talk therapy here. I'm talking placing a violent behavior on extinction (you do it, you get nothing) and then reinforcing the heck out of a positive behavior. It's differential reinforcement. It's how we all learn. All that said, again, having only briefly worked with children on their way to prison, I respectfully admit I don't know that I can help all kids. Plus, I tend to work with younger kids. I know there are older kids who would scare the crap out of me.
volker the viking wrote:
Is this a guy thing? Because I'm not clear on how bicycling can be used against you. Unless it's about Lance breaking up with Sheryl, and I'm sure that's, totally like, no fault on both sides. Cause they're so cool. And thin. And stuff.
RE wrote:
1931/32 dipped pretty low. That was a lesson there.
But is the lesson good for all swings at all times.
"A Frenchman hasn't won since 1985."
They're definitely more agreeable to another European winning than an American winning.
One thing that bothered a lot of Europeans was how Lance Armstrong went about winning.
His whole goal was to win the Tour de France not to win individual stages. And not to win any other of the famous races.
This is very different than how the old European Greats raced.
A lot of the old greats pushed themselves every stage and every race. Lance Armstrong is way down the list on total number of stages won in his career.
Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:
He technically wasn't French but they loved eddy merckx.
Junior high school is populated with savages. I had a moron hit me and my friend every morning for a week getting dressed for gym class. The gym teacher was sitting in his office smoking and ignoring the world, that FF. The kid doing it was being held back a year to get his grades up so he could keep playing fooootball in high school. I pulled my keys out, and told him next time I was gonna hit him with the keys between my fingers and mess us his pretty face.
He rats me out to the FF. I get dragged up to the Vice Principals Office. Who calls my father in when I get called up front. My father asks me if I did it. Yeah. My father then tells me go ahead and hit the shit next time, you have my permission. Then the old man rips the vice principle a new one for calling him outta work for this shit. Tells him to either get his stuff under control with young punk, or not bother him with the mess that results. The Vice Principle listens to this, tells my father I still get a week in detention for threatening him with a weapon. I do the week.
I tell the asshole what my father said, which was if you get pissed enough to do the time, do the crime, and I smiled that I had already earned a week of DT. He left me and my friends alone after that, but the FF was mad because apparently the Vice Principle told him I could "snap" and that he had better watch his prize booby.
Bullies suck, but when you call them on it, they either fold or jump you with friends. If they jump you with friends you can either play tit for tat or run for it.
Junior high boys are savages. Period.
Nonviolence is a good idea if you don't have people pulling crap, and that junior high was in suburbia.
BTW. I did get even, superglue is wunnerful stuff.
Someday this war's gonna end...
RE wrote:
How's credit for small business & families doing in this swing up... aka the pump?
KidPsych wrote:
Does it help if the foster parent has been though some of the same shit the kid has been through? Or is that an obstacle?
Cloudburst. Strong gusty winds.
dryfly wrote:
On a county level Zillow is pretty good, not on any kind of granular level.
poic wrote:
Good thing that never happened with our great athletes - like say [American] football players eating speed in the 60s and 70s.
That list Dawg posted [above] with athletes who got busted - saw another funny one:
Aaron Fike... United States... Auto Racing... Heroin
Really? Heroin? The guy should get a medal if he won any race - as in dude, how come you are driving so sloooooow?
pavel.chichikov wrote:
That was two days ago here - caused the floods in Duluth.
Does it help if the foster parent has been though some of the same shit the kid has been through? Or is that an obstacle?
Boy, it would depend on how aware the foster parent is of their own stuff. Typically they're not, which is where the problems occur. That seems to be much of what I do, help parents become aware of why they're having such severe reactions and then leaning how to not do that anymore. Adults who have had disordered pasts really struggle with intense emotions around common interactions. On the other hand, if a parent who had gone through the same stuff and had become aware of it, they'd be an ideal parent.
scone wrote:
once you say something, the other side goes full on offensive
Rob Dawg wrote:
I thought it was the invent of the 12 gauge slug.
poic wrote:
you too?
-- Telegraph
"you too?"
You're horrible at this
Debt crisis: Angela Merkel defies Latin Europe and the IMF on bond rescue - Telegraph
RE wrote:
Right. So how can you analyze the periodic crises so talked about in economc crisis/contagion theories and not address central banking policies (based on the limited known available facts anyway) and give the central bankers a grade in how they have done during (OR BEFORE) big cycle swings if you are an economist academic who should think in terms of grades...
scone wrote:
Look what it got him, scone.
In game theory/negotiation theory, what I advocate is called "generous tit-for-tat." Begin with the assumption that people are good, and extend your trust. If they do right by you, you reciprocate in kind. If they do wrong by you, you reciprocate in kind. The other party learns that a) he is in control of his outcome; and b) he can get better outcomes by being cooperative and doing the right thing.
Citizen AllenM wrote:
to this very moment, I thought better of you
and you rank in fame with yogi
if not for the athletes, where would we be
Citizen AllenM wrote:
This is all true. But I'm not really talking about normal suburban stuff. I'm talking about ultraviolence. I'm talking about people beating their close biological relatives unconscious, then attempting to rape them to the point of death. And it gets worse from there.
"and you rank in fame with yogi"
Even a midget could jump that bar it's so low.
pavel.chichikov wrote:
Pretty funny really - Ain't nobody happy until Angela is happy.
on topic -
zillow, castrated whores that can't run a website
off topic -
syria -
evidence we've made no progress as a species since the holocaust. all of our purported leaders are amoral worms that don't care if millions of children are cast into a slaughterhouse.
more imporantly -
the dodgers without kershaw this weekend are lost. let's hope for 1/3 and a giants' crappy weekend as well.
congratulations
My day is not complete till I get approval and congratulations from you Volker.
volker the viking wrote:
Yeah, I hear you, but it's their shit, not your shit.
volker certain you morons missed the most important development to date
screw Greece, screw europe, pay attention you dumb asses
Escalation: Syria Says Turkish Jet Shot Down Was Over Syrian Territorial Waters | ZeroHedge
unless it has legs
who is giving the story legs?
Feckless Ness wrote:
This is basically the set up for Mutual Assured Destruction. Just saying.
volker the viking wrote:
Oh yeah because ZH is the go-to place for mid east analysis.
Possible Big Time Black Swan.
Possible World Changer.
I guess next week is THE week.
Kurtz got off of the boat.
greenchutes wrote:
I am going to go one step farther - they not only don't care but approve.
My roommate in college was Turkish - after the Beirut bombing he was expecting Ronny to turn the Beqaa Valley into glass - when it didn't happen he said Ronny was as big of a puss as Carter. He said we [as Americans] were unable to understand Middle Eastern war. I told him we didn't know who did it [exactly] - where they were now and didn't want innocent blood on our hands. He said ...
'Really? In the Middle East if you kill the beautiful brown eyed child of your enemy you don't have regrets you celebrate. That child can never grow up to threaten your beautiful brown eyed child as an adult. Understand that and you understand what is required to make war in my part of the world.'
He then said he hopes America never does get deeply involved in the Middle East - it will poison us. That was early 1980s. Obviously we didn't take his advice.
Rob Dawg wrote:
doesn't change the situation
Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:
Russia has a year round port at Tarluk.
Imminent (as in within days) China, Iran and Russia will conduct the largest ever military exercises ever
and the dumb ass in the WH is a eunuch
Feckless Ness wrote:
And I have to address this as a separate thing. Jesus died for his beliefs, it's true, and therefore, it did not "get him anything." But I, for one, do not want to live in a world "managed" by game theory. Nor do I want to live in a world where everyone is trying to "get something" from the system. We see where that goes- to utter self-interest.
I would far prefer to live in a world inhabited by people who sincerely ask themselves, "what is the most peaceful and equitable resolution to this conflict?" "How can we settle this to the advantage of all concerned?"
It's so very easy to be "tough" and cynical. It's extremely difficult to try another way.
Oh yeah because ZH is the go-to place for mid east analysis.
Maybe not. They give some links plus the comments talk/gibberish.
Where's a good place to go to get the real deal on what's happening over there?
and the dumb ass in the WH is a eunuch
What should he do?
merchants of fear wrote:
Can't say I know where to go but can guess that the CIA and State Dept are as or more clueless as anyone - if past performance is any measure.
On Tuesday, Adriana Vasquez sat to the left of the table where JPMorgan Chase Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon testified before the House Financial Services Committee for two hours. A 37-year-old janitor and a single mother of three, she had traveled from her home in Houston to Washington, DC, to ask Dimon one simple question.
When the hearing adjourned, she crossed to talk to him.
Vasquez is accustomed to speaking to executives at the JPMorgan Chase Tower where she works, so she wasn’t intimidated. But she says she “felt strange” as she approached the table.
“I’m not used to being in that environment—surrounded by cameras and journalists,” Vasquez tells me through an interpreter. “It’s chaotic. But when it came time to ask the question I didn’t feel strange at all. He’s a person, just like me—the only difference is he has money, and I don’t.”
She stood before Dimon and asked: “Despite making billions last year, why do you deny the people cleaning your buildings a living wage?”
Vasquez says Dimon’s entourage reacted “as if I had a weapon on me,” quickly surrounding him.
“Call my office,” Dimon replied, before being ushered toward the exit.
http://www.thenation.com/blog/168532/week-poverty-ms-vasquez-goes-washington
**Dimon is a punkass prick
**
scone wrote:
Not at all. In "generous tit-for-tat," there is no assurance of a first strike. Absolute certainty of the consequences is a pretty good preventative.
merchants of fear wrote:
Maybe AlJazerra, they usually have pretty good coverage.
It got him murdered. That's what it got him.
Oh yeah because ZH is the go-to place for mid east analysis.
Well the links are From Reuters and BBC explains...
Plus links like this in the comments: Saudi Arabia plans to fund Syria rebel army | World news | The Guardian
merchants of fear wrote:
depends
if you're a conspiracy guy go to Debka Files
if you are still a conspiracy guy go to stratfor
I was 13 going on 14- it was much less than I spent those hours of detention thinking of in my adolescent revenge fantasy machine.
Reading this stuff just brings it straight back.
Logic works with those who want it to work, but some folks are scorpions from the old tale.
Now we call them sociopaths, but they have always been with us.
Someday this war's gonna end...
of course, I'll always speak highly of you
Thanks for the thoughtful and civilized discussion of violence and the appropriate use of force. I anyone wants a little Real Estate pron, google 14500 Pt Reyes Retaluma Rd, Pt Reyes ca. I looked at it and put 1$ on the lotto.
mof--c'mon man, you know
"of course, I'll always speak highly of you"
Thanks, as I all you.
Tom Stone wrote:
one of these days, you're gonna make some money
"With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."
Steven Weinberg (1933 - ), quoted in The New York Times, April 20, 1999
I wasn't talking to you
Citizen AllenM wrote:
I met my share as a youth and as an adult. Some are simply wired wrong. LAteR.
Saudi Arabia plans to fund Syria rebel army
Exclusive: Command centre in Turkey organising weapon supply to opposition
The US senator Joe Lieberman, who is actively supporting the Syrian opposition, discussed the issue of FSA salaries during a recent trip to Lebanon and Saudi Arabia.
His spokesman, Whitney Phillips, said: "Senator Lieberman has called for the US to provide robust and comprehensive support to the armed Syrian opposition, in co-ordination with our partners in the Middle East and Europe. He has specifically called for the US to work with our partners to provide the armed Syrian opposition with weapons, training, tactical intelligence, secure communications and other forms of support to change the military balance of power inside Syria.
"Senator Lieberman also supports the idea of ensuring that the armed opposition fighters receive regular and sufficient pay, although he does not believe it is necessary for the United States to provide this funding itself directly."
Saudi Arabia plans to fund Syria rebel army | World news | The Guardian
(This link was over at ZH as I mentioned...)
volker the viking wrote:
It's hard to get the right kind of paper or I'd be buying ink cartridges at costco.
mof--c'mon man, you know
I use ZH for linkies. Some of the comments are good too. Ya know.
CIA has boots on the ground gathering intel in Southern Turkey and passing it on to Quatar and the Saudi's, who are funding insurgents.
merchants of fear wrote:
Well if Iran is doing exercises w/ Russia & China to show strength in the region then having 'The Kingdom' rattle the sword the other way just makes sense.
merchants of fear wrote"
"Some of the comments are good too. Ya know."
Ever spend time in the reader blog?
But the HCN corps or crew don't believe in agreements to perform together an illegal, wrongful, or subversive act
Tom Stone wrote:
I'm not calling you out
merchants of fear wrote:
it's over bithcez
and this time we're the bad guy
Feckless Ness wrote:
And eternal glory. Inspiring civilized people for thousands of years. And one of the most revered human beings who have ever walked this planet. Not a bad use of 33 years, in my view.
Ever spend time in the reader blog?
No I know... much of it is worthless jibberish or disinfo... occasionally there's a serious comment... not too often though... like here...
dryfly wrote:
get offa my lawn
Re: "Year-over-year and Month-over-month Zillow forecasts"
I like my data to be adjusted for minutes ...
No bankz??
volker the viking wrote:
Exactly.
UPDATE 3-UN says 1.5 mln Syrians in need of help
| Reuters
Fri Jun 22, 2012 1
"Major-General Robert Mood, in charge of the U.N. monitoring mission for Syria forced to suspend operations a week ago due to insecurity, voiced concern at "civilians trapped in combat zones" and the level of destruction in major cities.
"What we're seeing when we go into neighbourhoods in Homs, in Deraa, in Hama in particular, is a level of destruction that begs rebuilding and reconstruction beyond the classical interpretation of humanitarian aid," he told a separate news conference in Geneva on Friday.
"In this context, I'm also particularly concerned about the continued military occupation of hospitals, health facilities and schools (that is) also preventing access to medical attention for those in need," he said."
lawyerliz wrote:
Somewhere in an alternative universe banks are failing. In this one, not today.
Somewhere in an alternative universe banks are failing. In this one, not today.
"Compared to Greece we're doing just fine."
Rickkk wrote:
And using them as human shields.
we're fooked
dryfly wrote:
"And using them as human shields."
Agreed.
Syrian children used as human shields: UN - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
June 13, 2012
"The United Nations says the Syrian government is now one of the world's worst offenders in torturing and executing children.
In its annual report on children in armed conflict, released today, the UN says Syrian troops have used children as young as eight years old as human shields during military raids against rebels.
I have never seen such terrible action against children. We have cases of... torturing children or putting children on tanks and using them as shields, or summarily executing children. The report finds that children were killed and subjected to torture and sexual violence by Syrian armed forces and militia loyal to president Bashar al-Assad.
"We have cases of children really being - things that usually do not happen in conflict areas, where children get killed in the crossfire, but actually torturing children or putting children on tanks and using them as shields. Or summarily executing children. These are things that normally don't happen in warfare."
volker the viking wrote:
Yep. And so we need each other. For better or worse.
Somehow it doesn't feel like a Friday today.
scone wrote:
this a whole new level in our relationship
I wonder...
Is it possible Russia and China told us months ago to stay out of Syria?
And it was reiterated to Obama with his meeting with Putin?
...otherwise how do you explain no intervention? Can it be that simple?
It was Fry-day here today.
this a whole new level in our relationship
merchants of fear wrote:
Doesn't make sense------
Iran and Syria | The Iran Primer
Rickkk wrote:
This is why we need to turn the tide of violence back. Turn it back now. The next step goes down into a bad place. A bad place.
Bruce in Tennessee wrote:
es, when you are a eunuch
Is it possible Russia and China told us months ago to stay out of Syria?
Russia confirms cargo ship carrying Syria helicopters, IBN Live News
Jun 21,2012
BBC News - Syrian military says it downed Turkish fighter jet
scone wrote:
I agree scone.
Bronte Capital did a great post on kleptocracy in China...his thesis is:
(a). The savings rate in China was abnormally high driven by the one-child policy,
(b). The options for investing those savings for most the population were extremely limited - mostly bank deposits.
(c). The bank deposit market was rigged so that deposit rates were consistently below the inflation rate.
(d). That repressed interest rates were mainly used to subsidize state owned enterprises and that
(e). This funded the widespread looting of State Owned Enterprises by party officials.
This is the follow-up.
Bronte Capital: Follow up to the China kleptocracy post
Bad news: Jon Stewart not exactly buying the executive-privilege claim « Hot Air
Yo
More graphs, pleeze
km4 wrote:
Favorite place to take a leak, after flying the North Shore of Molokai.
Easy to get a 180 in.
Is it possible Russia and China told us months ago to stay out of Syria
Ya but Iraq was cool as all turned out well.
adornosghost wrote:
So you were a musician..and now you are extremely wealthy. Are you that guy who wrote the guitar riff to Sweet Home Alabama and never had to work again??
Sebastian wrote:
"For those of us at the top of the pecking order, our value to the Debtrix is measured by our complacency in allowing it to persist. The longer we are in the Debtrix, the more time it has to consume our wealth and our humanity-"
Mike_PNW wrote:
No---
Greece’s awful dilemma: the drachma, or the Eurocrats - The Globe and Mail
Friday, Jun. 22 2012, 6:54 PM EDT
"So how could Greece come back from the dead? For three years, absolutely no one – not the European Union, not the International Monetary Fund, the European Central Bank nor any number of finance ministers – has come up with the right combination of financial firepower, fiscal restraint and growth plans to stem the rot in Greece. A European leaders’ summit next week will give it another shot as the crisis juggernaut rumbles on, threatening to flatten Italy and Spain, the euro zone’s third- and fourth-largest economies."
Mike-PNW wrote:
"Are you that guy who wrote the guitar riff to Sweet Home Alabama and never had to work again??"
Lynyrd Skynyrd and Neil Young
Lynyrd Skynyrd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
YouTube - Sweet Home Alabama Lynyrd Skynyrd
Isn't there a koan to the effect that you should do nothing & let the goose peck its own way out of the bottle?
volker the viking wrote:
We just need to adjust to the fact that we are not the only Big dog on the block anymore. Let China protect it's Sea lanes from Africa and Iran and make room for Russia in the Med, Baltic and the Arctic.
The Russians and Chinese have recovered from the Second WW and want a place at the Security Table. It's about time, the cost of playing world policeman was to high. Just make it clear that they will be confronted and there will be trouble if they move on Europe, South America, Greenland Iceland, and Possbly Australia, India Nieland. Not sure Australia and New Zieland want us, some times it looks like they prefer China as an alia.
YouTube - Soggy Bottom Boys - I'm A Man Of Constant Sorrow
"I'm am the man of constant sorrow
I've seen trouble all my days bid farewell to ol' Kentucky
The place where I was born and raised..."
Rickkk wrote:
YouTube - Greg Brown - SLEEPER
Thanks for the treat.
YouTube - Nick Drake - Pink Moon
lawyerliz wrote:
I don't know. http://dailybunny.org/post/25504527872/bunny-enjoys-long-walks-beach
YouTube - Greg Brown - Hills of California - Kate's Guitar_0001.wmv
Bruce in Tennessee wrote:
Yes. Given how vulnerable we are in Afghanistan and how close Iran, Russia and China are to it. And Pakistan not in the slightest bit interested in helping. Or even really able to help.
Yes.
adornosghost wrote:
I used to see Greg Brown live at a small bar in Iowa City circa 1982-83.
Ronnie V wrote the lyrics..but the story (as I recall) behind the classic guitar riff is that it was a guy named Ed King. He had been recruited into the band prior to the first album by Ronnie..but was having trouble getting along with the other (J-ville based) band members. They were out on tour and he went to sleep one night and woke up with that classic riff in his head. He grabbed his guitar..went down to Ronnies room..knocked on the door..and when Ronnie answered..he played him the riff. The rest is history..
King left the band shortly thereafter..but as co-writer on that song...never had to "work" again.
dryfly wrote:
One our best songwriters.
I'm going to Kate Wolf Music Festival next week where Brown did the recording:
YouTube - Kate Wolf : Here In California
adornosghost wrote:
Yup. Gotta go walk down by the river with the wife - check out the flood. Catch ya later.
dryfly wrote:
YouTube - Kate Wolf - Across the Great Divide
There's a possible tropical thing forming & the pons & canals in S Florida are really full