Randy Newman loves LA.

will I have to get with the program and "buy" then ? definitely worth following CR even more carefully now.

Time to go out in the sun (sun! Haven't seen much of it lately) & check on the garden.

Some people seem to have sufficient $$ & time to drive miles (some of them100+ miles each way) just to see this: Japanese dock: “Mecca for the Curious” » News Lincoln County

Not to mention the wealthier types who circled their small noisy planes & helicopters overhead, including the pilot of the Coast Guard helicopter (stationed in Coos Bay). All to see a large concrete dock w/a core of styrofoam that floated over from Japan & got stuck in the sand on a beach in OR.

azurite wrote:

$$ & time to drive miles (some of them100+ miles each way) just to see this: Japanese dock: “Mecca for the Curious”

Must be some really bored people.

I think that it's going to be a smoky year:

High Park Fire: Large Wildfire Northwest Of Fort Collins, Colo. Prompts Evacuations (VIDEO, PHOTOS)

Is that fire out in New Mexico?

From pigged thread:

Sebastian wrote:
going to be added to Spain's indebtedness and there will likely be additional government budget cuts to compensate for it

to which Josap responded: Again, the money is going straight to the banks. Why is the government responsible for paying it back?

It isn't going directly to the banks, it's going through the Spanish government's FROB, which is sort of a hybrid TARP/FDIC. So the money will ultimately flow to the banks, but Spain is the debtor to the Eurozone.

Sebastian

On a Tiny Caribbean Island, Hermit Crabs Form Sophisticated Social Networks [Video]: Scientific American

Only one thing could break up the chain of crabs: a Goldilocks hermit crab for whom the shell introduced by Lewis and Rotjan was just right. As soon as such a crab claimed its new home, all the crabs in queue swiftly exchanged shells in sequence. The largest crab at the front of the line seized the Goldilocks crab's abandoned shell. The second largest crab stole into the first's old shell. And so on.

No one had ever documented such well-orchestrated shell swapping before, but similar behavior was not unknown. In 1986, Ivan Chase of Stony Brook University made the first observations of hermit crabs exchanging shells in a "vacancy chain"—a term originally coined by social scientists to describe the ways that people trade coveted resources like apartments and jobs. When one person leaves, another moves in. Since then, several researchers—including Lewis and Rotjan—have studied the behavior in different hermit crab species.

Some preliminary evidence suggests that other animals use vacancy chains too, including clown fish, lobsters, octopuses and some birds. As Chase explains in the June issue of Scientific American, vacancy chains are an excellent way to distribute resources: Unlike more typical competition, a single vacancy chain benefits everyone involved—each individual gets an upgrade. So it makes sense that hermit crabs and other animals have evolved sophisticated social behaviors to make the most of vacancy chains.

CR argued: "When the expectation is that prices will fall further, marginal sellers will try to sell their homes immediately. And marginal buyers will decide to wait for a lower price. This leads to more inventory on the market.

But when the expectation is that prices are stabilizing (the current situation), sellers will wait until it is convenient to sell. And buyers will start feeling a little more confident."

I agree. Although it may seem like a minor thing, there's a big difference in conditions between being forced to sell and having the choice of timing.

Sebastian

Well at least so far - Spain has recovered without German help..

Spain 1 : Italy 1 . 10 minutes to go.

Sebastian wrote:

there's a big difference in conditions between being forced to sell and having the choice of timing.

I wonder if the banks are making that choice and adding to their "inventory." I wonder what kind of bets you make, when the Fed has your back?

Hey, there's an anti Rick Scott ad (our crazy eyed gov) at the bottom of the comments.

Blessed be!

See you later.

Sushi calls.

some nit-wit is having a real brush-up on Twitter over people Re-Tweeting him
@real_kaplan
... here's some gems:
"Still think it's A-OK to "Re-Tweet" me? Enjoy waking up tomorrow with five lawyers' dicks in your ass. See you in court."
or
"Look folks, I'm very well-known-- basically famous -- in New York. Next time you hoard enough pennies to come to NYC, ask anyone."

That should end well for him. Stupid dude is stupid.

The downturn in Europe has been matched by decelerating growth in rising economic powers such as China, India and Brazil.

“We are seeing a global slowdown,” said Scott Anderson, senior economist at Wells Fargo & Co. in Minneapolis

The effects are already evident in relationships with key trading partners. U.S. exports to the European Union, for example, fell 11.1% in April. And exports to China dropped 14%.

Europe’s impact on U.S. hangs like cloud - Economic Preview - MarketWatch

josap wrote:

The effects are already evident in relationships with key trading partners.

Don't worry...be happy...its contained!

Looks like a possible tornado east of Dothan heading towards Troy. Yep, gonna get rough.

well.. from the games so far.. Germany is the best team.. reminds me of Mama Cass and what she said to Melanie Phillips - "you could have had any man, why mine"..

in this case. jeez. you want the EUFA Nations cup too ?

Italy 1 : Spain 1

skk wrote:

Well at least so far - Spain has recovered without German help..
Spain 1 : Italy 1 . 10 minutes to go.

As a courtesy to those of us who are recording the games for future viewing, could you refrain from posting scores?

I said that as nicely as I could.

Vote for Obama he won't kill as many innocents as Romney

OpEdNews - Article: Romney Quietly Hires Consulting Firm With Sordid History Of Destroying Democratic Voter Registration Forms

Romney Quietly Hires Consulting Firm With Sordid History Of Destroying Democratic Voter Registration Forms

yuan wrote:

The full amount of the eurogroup's lifeline amounts to €21,000 of new debt for each person — almost equal to the average salary in a country of 47 million where the unemployment rate for those under age 25 is 52 percent.

Waitaminute. That would be $1T euros. Where'd that figure come from?

yuan wrote:

My feeling is that we are going to see even more gruesome images on teevees in the muslim world. Fight terrorism with terrorism!

We already do; it has been US policy for at least three decades.

Landlords, rejoice!

Landlord imposes smoking ban on 2,000 California apartments - latimes.com

All markets are local. And different price tiers are different markets to a greater or lesser extent.

"look, I know you listed your tired 1958 3/2 on a tiny lot in an area bordering on gang violence-but not actually in the thick of things, for $712k, but if you'd consider our $805k offer, we can start escrow tomorrow."

Jackdawracy wrote:

but if you'd consider our $805k offer, we can start escrow tomorrow."

Only if you write us a nice letter telling us how wonderful our home is and let us know you will take good care of the roses. Oh, and your kids love the pool slide.

Rob Dawg wrote:

please stop with all the empty rhetoric

Read "The Chosen" yesterday......beats spending time here on pilpul......

picosec wrote:

As a courtesy to those of us who are recording the games for future viewing, could you refrain from posting scores?

Yup.. Ireland v Croatia on now.. Just to show I mean it - I won't say anything about the score..

tg wrote:

How Ayn Rand and L. Ron Hubbard Came Up With Their Big Ideas | Cracked.com

Didn't L. Ron Hubbard joke about creating a sci-fi religion before he actually did it?

I don't know. I assumed it was a tax thing

tg wrote:

Vote for Obama he won't kill as many innocents as Romney

Still you have to appreciate the irony of a how the president who won the Nobel Peace Prize his first day in office is now sending out killer drones all over the world to assassination people.

ac wrote:

Didn't L. Ron Hubbard joke about creating a sci-fi religion before he actually did it?

Yes, he planned it out before hand.
At least that is the story per Sprag DeCamp, who knew Hubbard well.
But then there was lots of bad blood between Sprag the followers of Dianetics, dead cats on doorsteps etc.

tg wrote:

Vote for Obama he won't kill as many innocents as Romney

How many Americans will Mitt execute without a trial?

volker the viking wrote:

Romney Quietly Hires Consulting Firm With Sordid History Of Destroying Democratic Voter Registration Forms

From the article"

"Nathan Sproul, a political consultant with a long history of destroying Democratic voter registration forms "

Why does that name sound familiar?

Hmmmm...

.

"ain't got a clue" for a decade or two ?

I already occupy that space

Ruh Roh......

They are beginning to eat their own:

Scott Walker breaks from Romney, says teachers and firefighters aren't 'big government' | ThinkProgress

skk wrote:

how about a stop at - "ain't got a clue"

skk wrote:

how about a stop at - "ain't got a clue" for a decade or two ?

There are times I think I just walk in circles, back to "ain't got a clue".

skk wrote:

You know.. like errr. Kissinger .

When was he President?

re: currency war

He accounts for his unpopularity amongst mainstream economists by saying that it’s understandable that “economists would reject a new system that challenges their monopolistic knowledge system.”...

EO: What do you mean we didn’t realize the importance of money?
Song: ...When I initially proposed this concept, people were confused and asked, “how could a war break out between currencies?” However, as people became more aware of the world’s economic environment, they started accepting the possibility.

There is no systematic research on the competition of currencies and money in China. Only monetary theories or economics are studied. China has neglected the importance of finance as a tool, a measure and a weapon, which could be vital for her development, economy and national security in the future. Therefore, my central point in all four books is actually the influence that money has on the fate of a country and the world....

EO: What’s have you found?
Song: Based on a recent survey that I did at ETH Zurich University ...

The graphic is ubiquitous. Try to find credit for Song Hongbing in the PR.

we analyzed the equity structure of 37 million transnational enterprises and found that 147 of the biggest financial institutes exercise control over 37 million enterprises.[...] Many big financial families set up funds and donated their fortunes, especially after 1930. What they want is the control instead of the ownership. Although there might be some philanthropists, the common practice of setting up charity foundations doesn’t seem logical to me....

EO: In your supposed era of warring states, does China have a decisive role?
Song: I’m not so pessimistic about that. The core idea is that a large domestic market is the base for a country’s ascent. Some have mentioned the internationalization of the yuan, however it’s obvious that the yuan can’t become the world’s reserve money if China’s domestic market isn’t the largest in the world. The Chinese economy is dependent on exports, which means the currency will flow back when goods are exported. Japan and Germany both tried the internationalization of deutschmarks and yen. However, their share in the international currency never exceeded 7%, which is also because of their export-orientated economies.

This could serve as a lesson for China. A third of China’s GDP comes from its domestic market, which is only a ninth of the size of the American market. The best outcome for export-oriented countries can’t be better than was the case for the deutschmark or the yen.

What’s the strategic purpose of promoting the internationalization of the yuan? In my opinion, the answer is to replace the dollar. However, is it possible to guarantee an efficient supervision of yuan trading abroad now? The more yuan that flow abroad, the more dangerous it will be. The same applies when pricing the yuan. If the State Administration of Foreign Exchange and the People’s Bank of China set up the exchange rate at 6.36, while the deal in New York 5, which standard will the market follow? As there are many financial derivatives abroad, the number of the deals there may exceed those in Beijing. In this case, China may lose the pricing right.

This is precisely why I look into the past. Looking back, we can observe how the pound and dollar rose. When comparing the domestic market in the U.S. and Great Britain to the one in China, it’s impossible to argue that the yuan could replace U.S. dollar in the next 30 years. It would be better to promote an Asian currency and benefit from the indirect internationalization of yuan. However, there are also problems, such as how Asia should be integrated.

Interview: "Currency Wars" Author

KarmaPolice wrote:

Scott Walker breaks from Romney, says teachers and firefighters aren't 'big government'

Teachers aren't, but education is? Firefighters aren't, but cops are?

ac wrote:

but when you come home to your apartment you have to breath the neighbor's cigarette smoke coming in under the door and through the AC vents.

There are common AC systems?

Eric wrote:

When was he President?

Think Dick Cheney....

Rob Dawg wrote:

Fourteen. Seven points each for being within walking distance of two country clubs.

Oh so you're a groundskeeper for two courses now....movin' on up!

Europe's democracies must not subcontract their destiny to the Bundebank - Telegraph

The French go (more) Socialist.
BBC News - French election: Socialists and allies 'set for win'

The Socialists appear tied with the right-wing UMP party on about 35% of the vote, but the support of Green allies gives them closer to 40%.

The outcome of the polls is expected to determine the extent and pace of reform under new President Francois Hollande.

Run-offs are to be held a week later.

The early indications are that turnout has been much lower than in the presidential elections in April, at about 60%.

YouTube - "A Time for Choosing" by Ronald Reagan

josap wrote:

What is the Walkability Score where you live?

72, but this system isn't very accurate. The most walkable neighborhood in my city isn't even listed, and what is listed as the most walkable neighborhood isn't.

Rajesh wrote:

The French go (more) Socialist.

The pendulum swings.

The French hated Sarko within 3 months of electing him.

La lune de miel etait trés court.

Bundebank? What next -- Chancellor Rottgen?

flaminia wrote:

Rob Dawg wrote:

Can we please stop with all the empty rhetoric?

It's empty when it doesn't suit you.

Read it again. I went to the trouble of explaining why and even providing an equally empty bit of counter rhetoric.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Also shows how stupid the walkability score can be.

Sorry. If your score is 14 that's is way more than stupid. It's no wonder you hate public transit.

You do not have any access....telling.

flaminia wrote:

walkability scores.

I'm more worried about a good rockabilly score...

Amazing Stats: % of U.S. Debt Held By Foreigners Keeps Growing – Here’s Who | munKNEE.com

Rob Dawg wrote:

Read it again. I went to the trouble of explaining why

One read through was sufficient. I am reminded of my recent vacation with two friends, one of them a university professor. He was repeatedly frustrated by the interruptions by his two travel mates. He had been conditioned by his work to expect rapt attention to his monologues and found the lack of same from his age peers disconcerting. He eventually got over it.

flaminia wrote:

He eventually got over it.

...that's not going to happen. If it is not his audience then there isn't an audience at all.

That's why his blog melted away like a snow cone in hell.

flaminia wrote:

expect rapt attention to his monologues

Sound like my X-husband.

yuan wrote:

Tax payed funded executions have been carefully covered up for decades, because they are technically illegal. Drone attacks now allow the government to publicly execute anyone they put on a list, citizen or non-citizen.

Indeed... though it may put the CIA out of a job.

Rob Dawg wrote:

the failings of the program

Over time it may get much better.
People from the areas input the information.
With increased interest more people will update with more accurate info.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

though it may put the CIA out of a job.

someone has to generate the "intelligence".

KarmaPolice wrote:

Sorry. If your score is 14 that's is way more than stupid. It's no wonder you hate public transit.

You do not have any access....telling.

KP, you have while . Walkability is tantamount to developmental density. What do you have against open spaces?

flaminia wrote:

If it's a wiki type system

Anyone can update, add or delete businesses.
Write reviews etc.
Easy to use and check out an area.

josap wrote:

We want to find a place to watch sports.

If there is a nearby place you like, why not suggest it to the proprietor?

Tom Stone wrote:

The county shows 1 2/2 but all the units have been there since the 1930's

As a buyer, non-conforming structure should not be considered when appraising the home.

KarmaPolice wrote:

As a buyer, non-conforming structure should not be considered when appraising the home.

Legal nonconforming income property should not be considered? I hope POIC has your Real Estate column above the fold on the front page of his newsletter. You really believe that the income from LEGAL units does not affect value?

josap wrote:

Rob Dawg wrote:

the failings of the program

Over time it may get much better.

I'll have to check my archives but IIRC the program is a decade old and no better today.

yuan wrote:

someone has to generate the "intelligence".

And by "generate", we might also infer "manufacture"... luckily with all the large-scale domestic surveillance programs instituted, especially since "freedom itself was attacked", there will be no lack of data to sift through.

flaminia wrote:

ac wrote:
but when you come home to your apartment you have to breath the neighbor's cigarette smoke coming in under the door and through the AC vents.
There are common AC systems?

I lived at a place where the were no common AC units but for some reason whatever the person downstairs was cooking I could smell in my apartment even though the floors were separated by concrete.

Never figured that one out.

Tom Stone wrote:

Legal nonconforming income property should not be considered?

As a buyer, not for an appraisal.

"You really believe that the income from LEGAL units does not affect value?

I can see why you are a real estate agent.

Rob Dawg wrote:

What? Nonconforming can simply mean subsequent rezoning that doesn't restrict existing use. Where did you get your appraisal training?

I thought that you had me on "ignore".

How metaphorical: Spain and Italy tie 1-1 - MarketWatch

JP wrote:

How metaphorical: Spain and Italy tie 1-1 - MarketWatch

Or synchronistic.

KarmaPolice wrote:

I thought that you had me on "ignore".

You just plain old don't think.

I had a bunch of english muffins that were going to go out of date so we just had mini pizzas on them with fresh tomato, basil, and sweet peppers from the garden. Add a few slices of pepperoni, some cheese, black olives and thin sliced vidalia onion and I'm done cooking for today.

KarmaPolice wrote:

As a buyer, not for an appraisal.

"You really believe that the income from LEGAL units does not affect value?

I can see why you are a real estate agent.

And I can see why you are not an appraiser or an agent. Have you considered sniffing better quality glue?

t r orwell wrote:

Banks are back to their old MO and SOS with $100 down or 3% down, 30 year home loans @ 3.7% in 22 states, and they are selling these loans to HUD and FHA as I had posted months ago....even loaning out extra money to remodel.

Insanity. On all parties parts.

Tom Stone wrote:

And I can see why you are not an appraiser or an agent.

No you can't. Go right ahead and give an appraisal for a non-conforming structure.

You. go. right. ahead. and. do. that.

Exports of buffalo meat soar from India - FT.com

Indian beef. What possibly could go wrong?

I pose this to the philosophers on the board: Is there anything that KP doesn't have a condescending opinion about?

blinkered wrote:

I pose this to the philosophers on the board: Is there anything that KP doesn't have a condescending opinion about?

Palo Alto?

Tom Stone - Apologies for feeding the troll. The difference between ignorance and stupidity sometimes slips my mind.

I am ignorant, so thank you for putting the facts out there Tom.

Later. There are some open homes I need to look at again.

blinkered wrote:

I pose this to the philosophers on the board: Is there anything that KP doesn't have a condescending opinion about?

No.....

justaskin wrote:

Now it's a Seven-Eleven

Over the last couple of years I have noticed the mom & pop places doing better and the big chains closing, at least for resturants.
People seem to be making a choice to suport local. It's a real shift here.

We need fewer FBI agents along with the cops, firemen and teachers

Yeah, I'm starting to see a shift here as well. They started a little farmers market at the Marina down the street from my job and it's really taken off. They actually had to start another one on Sundays because the Saturday one was so busy. They now do one in town and one on the beach.

Comrade Kristina wrote:

Yeah, I'm starting to see a shift here as well. They started a little farmers market at the Marina down the street from my job and it's really taken off.

Oh Kristina, don't go to those because....you know....the Dawg....he says all dat shit is from Mehico....and it's a rip-off and stuff....

"Scott Walker breaks from Romney, says teachers and firefighters aren't 'big government' "
Teachers aren't, but education is? Firefighters aren't, but cops are? Luuuuuu-Ceeeeee, you got some splainin to do!

Divide and conquer. Doesn't have to make sense.

The earlier comment on Nathan Sproul is an important one...both for Libertarians (Paulists) and Demos.

Check out Sproul's track record. Goes back to 2004. Check out the AZ primary convention. Worse than Rove. No loyalties to anyone, but the $$$. An Arizonan, much to my dismay. What has happened to my beloved state???

Back to reading the thread...

We have 9, out of 15, eateries that are not chains at our 4 commerical corners.
Books store, hobby store, 3 salons, euro market and about a dozzen others that are owner run.

It's a good mix. And yes, the service of owner run is much better.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

What has happened to my beloved state???

The crazies have taken over.

Paradigm Lost wrote:

Worse than Rove.

Jack Abramoff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"In 1999, eLottery hired Abramoff to block the Internet Gambling Prohibition Act, which he did by enlisting Reed, Norquist, and Tom DeLay's former chief of staff, Tony Rudy.[39]
Emails from 2000 show that Susan Ralston helped Abramoff pass checks from eLottery to Lou Sheldon's Traditional Values Coalition (TVC) and also to Norquist's Americans for Tax Reform (ATR), in route to Reed's company, Century Strategies."

That's todays modern GOP.

And Romney is filthy....just tellin' ya!

They're all filthy. The whole fetid, wretched, stinking lot of them. I can count on one hand the ones that are worth a crap.

hmm. Annual reports up to 2010. MoM up to 2012, pdf
Gobierno de España | Agencia Tributaria, tax revenue (en)

ahhh. a more aesthetically pleasing presentation just for anglophone point trawlers
Gobierno de España | The Spanish Economy

Well, Nathan is a crazy boy- but sometimes he is right:
Nathan Sproul strikes again: Mailer spotlights link between Russell Pearce and neo-Nazi J.T. Ready. - Phoenix News - Feathered Bastard

Hoisted from the 2008 election archives- Former State Senate President Russell Pearce (recalled 2011) with his arm around J.T. Ready- who just last month committed a heinous mass murder suicide. Guess he called that one right. Although, guess what? Mr. Pearce is now vice chairman of the Arizona Republican Party.

On the other hand, I would stay far far far away from Mr. Sproul- Tom Horne Wants Everyone to Know There's No "Direct Evidence" Against Him - Phoenix News - Valley Fever

FBI investigations, anyone?

The crazy just keeps up piling up around here, so deep you need wings to keep above it.

Someday this war's gonna end...

Citizen AllenM wrote:

The crazy just keeps up piling up around here, so deep you need wings to keep above it.

When the GOP starting courting the Religious Right and bigots, what they failed to understand is that the RR followers don't like Jews.

Oh, and btw, they don't like Mormons either.

The Spanish Bank Bailout: A Complete Walk Thru From Deutsche Bank | ZeroHedge

FUBAR !

"Men are more attracted to mission than self-improvement"
~ guest comment, "Interfaith Voices", NPR 10 June 2012

Russell Pearce is LDS- who was thrown out of office by someone who was handpicked to run against him by local stake prezzies after some rumored comments from high up Salt Lake.

LDS has probably decided the far right crazy doesn't play well with the recruiting further south, and doesn't want any more rad right folks tarnishing the good folks. (Bet Mitt is part of this strategy too!)

BTW- they all used to uniformly vote dem here post Roosevelt when this was a dem state.

They are a block that will swing when told to swing, as long as they get what they want out of it.

IMHO, but I have been an observer of them for 25 years- including some distant relations who converted.

Someday this war's gonna end...

"How about the liberal churches? How do they push away the men?"
~ host interrogatory, "Interfaith Voices", NPR 10 June 2012

Comrade Gibbon wrote:

I suspect a better metric is how many cars per capita there are in a place.

Have to agree with that, but noting carless by choice or economics would need to be done as well.
One couple we know is carless by choice, but they call us(or other friends) if they need to buy something to big to get home on the bus/rail. The bus stops are very busy here, not sure how to tell choice vs need. No one in suits

I'm so sorry to hear that.

yagij wrote:

when corporations and governments hire graduates of these free/low cost offering schools. Until the HR departments let them in, I'm going to be fine

The help can always move on. The royal family... not so much.

shill - $125 Billion Bank Bailout Announcement Sparks Massive Protests In Spain

Why, do they expect they will have to actually pay it back?

Dinner Tonight:

Braised baby back ribs with homemade baked beans and pan fried padron pepper, garlic and onion medley.

Why, do they expect they will have to actually pay it back?

The Plebs will have to pay, the bond holders and Bankers get a free ride.

yagij wrote:

I'm going to see the collapse of the private For-Profit sector schools that don't have a nation-wide footprint (e.g. the culinary art schools or video game programming schools)

For profits have that little niche of taking their slice of the student loan market, selling a dubious product, on non-dischargeable credit. Kind of hard to compete with state and federally subsidized schools, otherwise.

Tommy Chong Diagnosed With Cancer | TMZ.com

Spain is in a depression. anyone who says they are not can kiss my.....

ooo boy. Now the "Interfaith Voices" host is interviewing a, well, ecumenical sociologist? whose specialty is correlation of Meyer-Briggs scores to adoption/attendance

Feckless Ness wrote:

Where's the problem?

If you want to be or appear inclusive, perceptions matter. Swap out "Man v. Woman" and substitute in "White v. Black" or "Straight v. Gay" If you don't mind being exclusive--which usually is the method that works in Meatspace--then, there is no problem.

I just remind myself that Ferfal, the guy from surviving Argentina blog, got tired of the problems there, and moved to Spain......
Really glad he did not immigrate to the U.S. it seems like Depressions follow him around.

Kauai_Kahuna wrote:

Spain is in a depression. anyone who says they are not can kiss my.....

And soon all of Europe.

Feckless Ness wrote:

If it looks like a duck,

25% unemployment is a depression number.
50%+ under age 25 is insane.

The way the current economic conditions are being successfully masked we should probably call it a suppression. And when we finally get our medicine it will be in the form of a suppository.

Where the "community service" goal is concerned, I'm gonna guess the kernal of a group dilemma (conversion failure rate) is proselytizing --how often, how much.

That seems to me the gist of considered marketing strategies (of which, gender gap) discussed by the guest today.

Feckless Ness wrote:

If he likes what you're cooking, he'll show up. If he doesn't, that's on him.

Srsly, men need to get over themselves.

can i haz a :touched_sore_spot: icon or is that ?
.
FD: I don't have a dog in the hunt so it doesn't matter to me. Mary was quoting something, and I was just saying I have heard similar discussions take place in my community. Apparently, you don't agree with the debate's premise so different notes.

Feckless Ness - Srsly, men need to get over themselves.

I for one will remain in denial for now. I kind of like it.

Feckless Ness - Ferfal moved to Ireland.

Really? Good for him, the beer is better but I do seem to prefer Spanish ladies I have to admit.

Kauai_Kahuna wrote:

but I do seem to prefer Spanish ladies I have to admit.

Spanish Lady sez: You need to get over yourself!
.
Agronox wrote:

Mental note: it may be a good time to start going to a liberal church.

Said congregations--the ones I am referring--have little/no single ladies 18-34. No meat market for you!

yagij - Spanish Lady sez: You need to get over yourself!

Strange, I usually get told: get off.....

Agronox wrote:

Mental note: it may be a good time to start going to a liberal church.

I would imagine the free food is tough to resist

How a Single Company Gained a Stranglehold over Online Shopping and the Future of Retail | The Big Picture

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

I would imagine the free food is tough to resist

After yagij's clarification it sounds like the meat might be a little tough.

Tommy Chong Diagnosed With Cancer | TMZ.com 

Tommy Chong is 74. It's not all that unusual for a 74 year old to have prostate cancer and it's likely to be slow growing. Chong's doctor may be perfectly OK with marijuana treatment. Not that it'll cure the cancer, but if it makes the symptoms tolerable, there may be less risk from ignoring the cancer than from treating it. (That's not the way that most other cancers are treated of course).

"After yagij's clarification it sounds like the meat might be a little tough."

You just need to smack it.

Wait, what ?!?!?

poic wrote:

90 degrees

That's not even hot yet, brah.

O Rose, thou art sick!
The Invisible worm,
That flies in the night,
In the howling storm,

Has found out thy bed
Of Crimson joy;
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy.

William Blake - The Sick Rose

That poem sounds like a metaphor for V.D. Just sayin'.

Blackhalo wrote:

I can see why male attendance might be low.

Yep. I view it rather holistically. Many of the religious groups that are suffering a decline are facing the problem on multiple fronts: aging core group, gender absence, and diversification of social options. It is just easier to focus on the obvious stuff like: where are teh menz?!

Feckless Ness wrote:

That poem sounds like a metaphor for V.D. Just sayin'.

It's not even February!

poic wrote:

90 degrees

Ick.
25 miles here, 10 of them on the beach. 72 degrees and perfect.

My iPhone app recorded 2900 ft of climbing, which I love because the hill was 1100ft. Inflationary!

Attaining: - Kayaking.com

Making an attainment is the act of "gaining" an eddy further upstream, and is often used as a way to get back up to a play spot, or potentially as a way to get a better approach to the next segment of white water. It is often an essential skill to have in many rescue situations, and in these times there will be little time to "figure it out". It can be quite challenging depending on the attainment(s) needed, and the complexity of the currents, but the basic idea is always the same: using ferry angles to shoot across jets of current into slower eddy water and then using that slower water to climb further upriver. Some key points to consider are:

U.S. Physician on Fukushima: Beware of all the lifeforms you take out of the Pacific (VIDEO)

vtcodger wrote:

"Tommy Chong is 74. It's not all that unusual for a 74 year old to have prostate cancer and it's likely to be slow growing. Chong's doctor may be perfectly OK with marijuana treatment. Not that it'll cure the cancer, but if it makes the symptoms tolerable, there may be less risk from ignoring the cancer than from treating it. (That's not the way that most other cancers are treated of course)."

Mr. Chong, as well a Mr. Buffett, were diagnosed at Stage One, which is very, very early, and has an excellent prognosis, both gentleman will likely die of something else first.

There are four stages to prostate cancer. Most plebeians get diagnosed at a Stage 3 or 4. Patrician usually get diagnosed at a Stage 1 or 2.

KarmaPolice wrote:

zurite wrote:

All to see a large concrete dock w/a core of styrofoam that floated over from Japan.

People would drive from Reno to see a bloated dead whale on the beach.

Never underestimate...

Remember the video of the stupids blowing up a dead whale? That would be worth the drive as long as one kept ones distance.

shill wrote:

U.S. Physician on Fukushima: Beware of all the lifeforms you take out of the Pacific (VIDEO)

The commenters on that item all seem to be alien abductees or off their meds.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

And drink some decent beer!

lol, that was my first reaction too.

The commenters on that item all seem to be alien abductees or off their meds.

Why? cause you say so?...means very little but you are entitled to your own opinion,.

The empty Bud Lite bottle on my lawn is just over the dam. No goddamned respect. That will change about 15 minutes from now.

tg wrote:

don't show mp

How Ayn Rand and L. Ron Hubbard Came Up With Their Big Ideas | Cracked.com

Not good. Ayn was ugly and Ron had red hair.

Rob Dawg wrote:

Bud lite is its own punishment.

tastes about the same going down as it does coming up

CitizenA: Nathan is a gun for hire. Spray can come your way anytime. No loyalties.

You lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas. I'm pointin' at you, Romney.

"...they face harsh austerity measure in the midst of raging unemployment in a depression-like economy.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck..."

It is a depression with 25% unemployment and over 50% youth unemployment. At least that's what we Americans called it in 1933.

Back to reading...

Euro trading up about 1% against USD. was around 1.2500 at close on Friday and is now 1.2659.

+300 DOW tomorrow?

shill wrote:

+300 DOW tomorrow?

Futs open in twenty minutes.

Gotta rip the faces off the bears, yo!

Sure, Europe is saved, again.

Nope just my Long calls BOO-YAA!