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kratovil1 wrote:

no dude wit the new tech there will never be cannonfeed as it has been known those days are way over. the new cannofeed will be the civilian populace

Sarcasm noted. But I think the esprit d'corps in the Roman sense has become entrenched.
Vietnam would have been the end of empire, otherwise. Better to have volunteers. I'm getting cynical in my old age.

kratovil1 wrote:

no dude wit the new tech there will never be cannonfeed as it has been known those days are way over. the new cannofeed will be the civilian populace

I don't see feudalism in our future from here, but perhaps from over the next ridge. It depends on how the megapolitical cards fall.

robj wrote:

Sarcasm noted. But I think the esprit d'corps in the Roman sense has become entrenched.
Vietnam would have been the end of empire, otherwise. Better to have volunteers. I'm getting cynical in my old age.

And a military class will only be reinforced with modern technology. The high point of "egalitarian" collectivism was the Age of the Rifleman. The day of effective non-professional soldiery has passed.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

Yeah he locked himself in the cabinet and wouldn't let Johnson fire him, right?
And Benjiman Franklin was so drunk at one of the Congressional Congresses that he was locked up in a closit because he was screemin about " everyone of us is going to hang".

If you want to go there, this is one fucked up country.

Johnson was week, had no control over a powerful 4 year war, hate filled goverment.

I know the case from a legal angle, but who gives the orders to the secret service?

Tinfoil Hat Eeexelent!

cannot see the future re feudalism but when only poor go to fight that is a strange sort of patriotism. something like that doomed rome they devolved to bread and circus and labandoned a citizen army

robj wrote:

Better to have volunteers.

I have always disagreed. From the very beginning I have always thought the draft was, NATIONALLY, ,,A good Idea and still do.

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

Johnson was week, had no control

He managed to escape the assassin's knife, however...

yes a great idea a true sharing. even the threat worked gwb into the pussy national guard

Count de Monet wrote:

The day of effective non-professional soldiery has passed.

I disagree.

I can not think of a more critical time in our nations history, to employ a CITIZEN SOLDGER.

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

I have always thought the draft was, NATIONALLY, ,,A good Idea and still do.

Heck, I've always thought it would be a great idea if everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, served a minimum 2 years in the service.

kratovil1 wrote:

yes a great idea a true sharing. even the threat worked gwb into the pussy national guard

Now, he kept Texas safe from Oklahoma. Don't be a hater.
We don't need conscription; 25% youth unemployment will do our work for us, as well as family traditions. Great-great Grandad was a veteran of the War against the Northern Invasion, but the rest of my name precedes Bobby Lee. Dad almost went into the artillery and West Point, but heard the call to the ministry instead. Who needs a draft?

kratovil1 wrote:

even the threat worked gwb into the pussy national guard

There is/was nothing pussy about our National Guard. It was a Major concern when they were deployed in Nam but turned out to be 'Much more Bad ass" and stronger soldgers than feared.

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

There is/was nothing pussy about our National Guard.

There was nothing pussy about piloting century-series fighters.

Nytol
You can work out the Wars of the Northern Persian Invasion on your own time tonight.

for a few but for most the idea was to avoid the shit at all costs. could not blame them except when they became great "patriots" like the great mission accomplished hero gwb who saved texas from olahoma as you said

Count de Monet wrote:

Conscription is slavery. Full stop.

Conscription is a responsibiltity to serve your COUNTRY. Count, it wasn't that BAD.

You Are not above anyone, you HAVE to take you Chances.

kratovil1 wrote:

instead you will see another form.

Conscription wouldn't have saved the country from becoming a police state. People simply don't value liberty.

Count de Monet wrote:

here was nothing pussy about piloting century-series fighters.

"century-series fighters"
I'm a simple Man, I do not understand.

Count de Monet wrote:

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

There is/was nothing pussy about our National Guard.

There was nothing pussy about piloting century-series fighters.

especially those dangerous missions over midland

you do not understand the difference between flying missions over hanoi as opposed to dallas?

kratovil1 wrote:

especially those dangerous missions over midland

OHHHH, More Men Died in B-24s in none combat , than in combat.

Surely you are not belittleing there sacrifice?

We are talking Thousands.

I may be talking in a time frame, I do not want to look it up.

they were training to go to a real war and their sacrifice is the same. i do not know how old you are but believe me people joined the guard to avoid not engage. and the politically connected for in some others needed bribes or luck

kratovil1 wrote:

you do not understand the difference between flying missions over hanoi as opposed to dallas?

All I am saying is that there's nothing "pussy" about being an interceptor pilot -- combat or no. There are far better ways for rich frat boys to avoid danger.

First of all, we wouldn't be having all of these goddamned wars if there was a draft.

Second of all, without a draft, the military culture becomes increasingly isolated, which is dangerous as hell. We're already seeing evidence of that.

Civilians as a "center of gravity" that need to be "influenced."

When I was in the military. I do not know how many Young lives were lost, STATE SIDE.

Were they any less dead, was there sacrifice any less Painful.

you need contest to make that statement read a little no insult intended

you said it better than i did

kratovil1 wrote:

you need contest to make that statement read a little no insult intended

"...even the threat worked gwb into the pussy national guard "

forget to say mp. good job

kratovil1 wrote:

no insult intended

I Know , None taken.

But those who are out there, sleeping in the rain on ambush. Scared Half to death, that somebode is going to trip the wire.

They are just like you ,

In a National Draft,,,,,,,,,,

They are JUST LIKE YOU.

I AM JUST Like You.

maybe not mp, He was an Officer. Big smile HaHaHa

nite mp

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

In a National Draft,,,,,,,,,,

They are JUST LIKE YOU.

True, which makes the difference in civilian attitude toward people in uniform during the Vietnam war versus today all the more perplexing.

today it is them remote then it was my cousin or brother. way more real.so now it is like a movie or a cartoon not likely to produce the visceral response that is appropriate

Count de Monet wrote:

True, which makes the difference in civilian attitude toward people in uniform during the Vietnam war versus today all the more perplexing.

Trust me Count when I say I understand what you are talking about. I have have personal experiences with stupid people in the 70's. It was a time of shit birds and asshats.

You really need to talk to people like "One currencey-Yogis" to find out where there head was at. I just rolled with the punches and took the curses.

Thow Count, I guess what you pointed out is how far this country as degressed into the politically Correctness ( lets not defent our rights) culture that we live in today. Right Yogi?

I just get tired of this Racial Bullshit, black ,white, We all bleed red.
The lies of of politicians (!)
The blaitant economic LIES.
The Two political partys, Owned by the ELITE.
Food being set up as a weapod against the PEOPLE.
I DON"T KNOW,I JUST DON"T KNOW>

YouTube - Don't Leave Me This Way- Thelma Houston

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

lets not defent our rights

To the other man's oil? Whatever, dawg.

OK, Thanks CR and KCOOP.

I'm out of here.

You international fuck wads have know idea how scared.................... down to the bone scared

I wish i was stong like you Nytol No Wait, got a little kiss for you

YouTube - Dave Mason-We Just Disagree

I'm not ready to Sleep. looks like the hard cores are still here.

Go to bed.

Antipodes , You Know that the earth quakes you have experieneced are just the beginning? Right(!)

What China has to understand and I believe they do,,,, is that ............

That are where they are,

Because The United States,,,,, Put them There.

YouTube - Steve Winwood - Back In The High Life Again

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

You Know that the earth quakes you have experieneced are just the beginning

The beginning of what? NZ has experienced earthquakes for ages.

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

What China has to understand and I believe they do,,,, is that ............

That are where they are,

Because The United States,,,,, Put them There.

New Keyboard In this, I am reasonably sure that the US and China think the same way. Everything good is the result of the hard work of the people and their glorious leaders, everything bad is the result of some nefarious conspiracy of other nations.

Antipodes wrote:

The beginning of what?

There are going to be changes.

sdtfs wrote:

Everything good is the result of the hard work of the people and their glorious leaders, everything bad is the result of some nefarious conspiracy of other nations.

BULL SHIT

Glorious leaders, HaHaHa

Run Charly

YouTube - Paint it Black - Vietnam War

I have done that too, taped the magazine on my helmet to make sure the rounds would line up.

YouTube - ZZ TOP- LA GRANGE

India give me a little kiss, I know I can't count on Sing

YouTube - ZZ TOP- LA GRANGE

BE Wise,,,,,,,,,,, Do Not Confuse sez with reality. Keep your shit together Wink

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

Please, Don't go there.

Sorry, didn't mean to ruin your fantasy of a grateful nation.

But I imagine somewhere in a university on the mainland, there's a professor demonstrating how it's not only good economic sense, but also a moral imperative to transfer the US intellectual property to the world.

Good night.

sdtfs wrote:

Sorry, didn't mean to ruin your fantasy of a grateful nation.

Don't make me Laugh.

YouTube - The Warrior Song - Hard Corps

We need to bring our most perecious resourous HOME. WE NEED TO BRING OUR WORIOROUS HOME>

NOWW.

BRING OUR STRENGTYH HOME><

GOD I HATE ........................THIS

Lets take a coffee break

Who or what slapped Its not easy being green yesterday afternoon?

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

Don't do that

You and my husband talk?

YouTube - U.S.M.C. - Frontline

No, we don't

But He KNOWS. He Knows !

They make it look like it is some kind of .

Glorious thing to try to BE, BUT it isn't

There is NO gloty in dieing, just death. just death, no glory.

Billion Dollar Bait & Switch: States Divert Foreclosure Deal Funds - ProPublica

.....

What stands out is that even states slammed by the foreclosure crisis are diverting much or all of their money to the general fund. In California, among the hardest hit states, the governor has proposed using all the money to plug his state’s huge budget gap. And Arizona, also among the worst hit, has diverted about half of its funds to general use. Four other states where a high rate of homeowners faced foreclosure during the crisis are spending little if any of their settlement funds on homeowner services: Georgia, South Carolina, Wisconsin, and Maine.

Overall, only about $527 million has been earmarked for new homeowner-focused programs, but that number will go up. A number of large states — in particular New York, Nevada, Illinois, and Florida — have indicated they’ll be dedicating substantial amounts of the funds to consumer programs, but haven’t yet produced a final breakdown.

....

Futures red by 72 this morning...didn't the G-8 just meet?

...more duct tape I guess..

Spain Will Remain in Recession Next Year, OECD Forecasts - Bloomberg

Well, if this is so, it means we'll only have to worry about Greece half the time..we can spend the other half worrying about Spain...

..little victories..

What a world we live in,

YouTube - WATCHING THE RIVER RUN / LOGGINS & MESSINA

This is the TOP.

What a life we live.

YouTube - Poco -Keep on Tryin' (High Quality)

nite all

see you in a few days, months

but I LOVE YOU

I think we should set aside emergency worry space for Italy, Ireland, and New Jersey

nova wrote:

I think we should set aside emergency worry space for Italy, Ireland, and New Jersey

Payup: The worryomometer rates increased from $2.50/hr to $2.75/hr in March. Insert your debit card.

Tentative plans for another $.25/hr increase, Aug.1

I got a notice in my d-mail that there will be an emergency increase due to a green tax unexpectedly going into effect June 1.

That got LEAKED!? Rant

You can't trust anyone anymore.

Nanoo-Nanoo wrote:

You can't trust anyone anymore.

YES, you can not TRUST this government.

any more (!)

Gaaw-aawl-ly! US movie houses going Chinese. Want Got Popcorn? with that? ......while their stock market diving and supposedly, their RE market and economy also Im shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here! ... Maybe that's the problem, they're so busy using their bonanza savings to buy up everything tangible round the world, it's causing inflation at home and Quick, fetch a pail! ..... Economics is hard
Chinese firm to buy AMC movie chain - USATODAY.com

and who's your new "neighbor" down the street who bought all the vacant houses in your subdivision?

BdB

Pulling an all nighter?

NO. I am going to go to bed.

When I Want Too.

General Tso's popcorn would be good.

Who threw the anchor in the markets this morning?

And oil at 90?

Hey - that means cheap gas, right?

Peak oil went the way of the dinosaur, apparently...

TWO paragraphs! No errors!

Good DOG, have you lost your mind?!!!

And who was it that said that inflation is dead? Even the dogs are getting mad. Homeowner's insurance premiums are expected to rise because of increasing dog bite costs.....or if they don't, check your fine print cuz maybe your doggy insurance is excluded from the policy.
Insurance claims for dog bites rise

"That's not my dog."
"That's not a trampoline, either. That's a greenhouse cover for the growth underneath."

yes I Have

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ih4Hq2P9vR8&feature=related

"That's not my dog."

nor mine, not a big bad dawg among them

Billion Dollar Bait & Switch: States Divert Foreclosure Deal Funds - ProPublica

That's been in the news for about a month or so now - ever since the funds were released.

So who's going to do something about that? Where's the Foreclosure Deal Funds Czar?

no no I'm not ready to leave, I just got here, quit dragging me, oh okay, fine...

c u l8r

shill wrote:

N N your up early lol

tee-hee: My spidie senses got me up.

and oh HEY!

JPMorgan Joins MF Global in Lobbying Wins That Backfire - Bloomberg

Bloomberg

Germany, the only country in the euro area with a stable outlook on its AAA rating, sold 4.56 billion euros of two-year securities carrying a zero-percent coupon for the first time, Bundesbank data showed today. The securities were sold to yield 0.07 percent. The country offered a fixed interest payment of 0.25 percent when selling similar-maturity notes on April 18.note-sale-average-yield-0-07-lowest-on-record.html

But at least the yield stayed positive.

Rajesh wrote:

But at least the yield stayed positive.

Laughing out loud

I wish i Were.

Shill, I can't beleave you are Hera.

You Arew On Your On Your Own.

Blame it on the snow
U.K. Retail Sales Fall Most in Two Years on Rain Effects - Bloomberg

Sales including auto fuel declined 2.3 percent from March, when warm weather helped lift sales by an upwardly revised 2 percent, the Office for National Statistics said today in London. The median forecast of 24 economists in a Bloomberg survey was for a 0.8 percent decline. Sales excluding fuel dropped 1 percent, the most for almost a year.

Three botals ,

Tree bottald of wine.

Man. I love this Life. I have such a good live.

I walk alo g the beaches and

I thank you my LORD. I thank you.

Layter.

Bad Dawg Bobby wrote:

Later adys

Peace to you and Rest well.

Well, if this is so, it means we'll only have to worry about Greece half the time..we can spend the other half worrying about Spain...

Italy doesn't count? FASB?

Story of the day. Seems like it's usually an algo sell signal. We'll see.

Grexit fears send euro to nearly 21-month low - Currencies - MarketWatch

Shill, I can't beleave you are Hera.

You Arew On Your On Your Own.

Go rest m8ty Smile

German Bundesbank warns Greece not to reject reforms
| Reuters

Or we will, we will...well we will do something dammit!

Wasn't long ago some talking heads were recommending long oil and gold as a "real store of value" vs. the worthless $. Would suck to have to unwind that position right about now....

Rajesh wrote:

But at least the yield stayed positive.

"Off the lows!"

Europe? The stink has stunk and smelted here a long time, just can't smell your own

Or we will, we will...well we will do something dammit!

They will hold their breath until they turn blue and die. THEN we'll be sorry

It may be time for the Northern Europeans to switch to plan B. Something of a problem as there does not seem to be a plan B

vtcodger wrote:

switch to plan B

Plan B is to repeat Plan A LOUDER.

Rajesh wrote:

Plan B is to repeat Plan A LOUDER.

(SLJ voice)

TANKS IN THE MOTHERFUCKING STREETS, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

futures are not recovering this am...now -80...

I suppose this means there is more to worry about today than yesterday...

Isn't that how it works? Or has there just been more time for thought?

Eric wrote:

(SLJ voice)

Its a TARP!

where's the waste paper can?

Bruce in Tennessee wrote:

I suppose this means there is more to worry about today than yesterday...

At least until Its not easy being green drags himself out of bed.

vtcodger wrote:

It may be time for the Northern Europeans to switch to plan B. Something of a problem as there does not seem to be a plan B

IMO, there are Plan B's, but the political will to implement one or another is lacking.

"Is Europe on a Cross of Gold?" by Barry Eichengreen | Project Syndicate

I suppose this means there is more to worry about today than yesterday...
Isn't that how it works?

Yahoo headlines always provide the 'reason' for everything. So we'll see, presently.

burnside wrote:

Yahoo headlines always provide the 'reason' for everything

Now I'll have to worry about Yahoo....

The world economy is still broken, but Mr. Market knows that until the Central Bankers run out of ink, everything is fine.

Good morning everyone. I hope BDB made it to bed, his typing was fading fast Laughing out loud

TANKS IN THE MOTHERFUCKING STREETS, MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!

Tease. ( steps out onto patio ) is it go time! ( looks around )....nope...ok back to CR.

burnside wrote:

Yahoo headlines always provide the 'reason' for everything. So we'll see, presently.

It's especially entertaining on "big turn" days, like if we go down a slummer out of the gate and them sky 'em at noon, and Yahoo and the rest of the CNBS crowd still have the web pages up explaining why we're getting crushed.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Hewlett-Packard will announce another round of substantial job cuts Wednesday afternoon in an effort to streamline its teetering PC and services businesses, a source familiar with the plans told Fortune.

The layoffs will be "in the ballpark" of 25,000 workers, the source said, which would amount to about 7% of HP's global workforce. The nation's largest technology company by revenue currently employs 349,600 people worldwide, according to its latest regulatory filing.

HP prepares to announce massive layoffs Wednesday - May. 23, 2012

EXCLUSIVE Q&A: A Hedge Fund Manager Who Bet $100 Million On The Facebook IPO Just Called And Boy Is He Furious - Business Insider 

...Shill, you'd think in today's economy people would have better sense...could it be that hedge fund managers aren't rocket scientists?

shill wrote:

HP prepares to announce massive layoffs Wednesday - May. 23, 2012

You would think that Dell wouldn't be far behind after their latest results..

San Diego Unified Approves More Than 1,500 Layoffs | San Diego 6 | Local News

Ouch!...

...Shill, you'd think in today's economy people would have better sense...could it be that hedge fund managers aren't rocket scientists?

One can assume these fund managers were looking for an AAPL type situation where the stock opened and went parabolic and they were going to clean up on the way up...surprise A-holes.

All I know is there better still be coffee in the new normal, or there will be real trouble..

Nah, they're savvy dudes...like Jamie.

No I am serious, these folks are n it to make money..BIG MONEY!...again surprise. No worse than putting $100K ( 1 ) bet on the roulette wheel and praying for the red.

And it lands on the Black.... He he.

My guess is they started believing their own press and just figured no matter what they did they'd win. I think it's called arrogance.

My guess is they started believing their own press and just figured no matter what they did they'd win. I think it's called arrogance.

YouTube - Gordon Gekko "Greed is Good" Full Speech *read the description* 

General Tso's popcorn would be good.

Talk global..........certainly pays for the wars and keeps inflation down......for the short term

Greek Bondholder Seeks Payment or Collateral Citing Finnish Deal - Bloomberg

A holder of Greek bonds that weren’t settled in the biggest-ever debt restructuring said he’ll demand immediate payment unless the government posts collateral against his investment.

Rolf Koch, a private investor who says he holds 500,000 Swiss francs ($528,000) of the notes due in July 2013, argued that he’s entitled to equal treatment with Finland, which made getting collateral a condition of contributing to Greece’s second bailout. He wrote to the paying agent, Credit Suisse Group AG, invoking the bonds’ so-called negative-pledge clause, according to the text of a letter seen by Bloomberg News.

...What! A citizen thinks he has the same rights as a government? Like "of the people, for the people, etc." government?

Bless his heart.....

Recovery or Collapse? Bet on Collapse |

reports that two years ago Andrew Haldane, executive Director for Financial Stability at the Bank of England (the UK’s version of the Federal Reserve) said that the financial crisis, now four years old, will in the end cost the world economy between $60 trillion and $200 trillion in lost Dooooooooooooooom!!!

Outsider wrote:

Facebook flipper investors are helping sink its stock - May. 23, 2012

FTA:

On top of that, individual investors got a larger share of the pie. They received roughly 25% of the shares, rather than the typical 20%. These investors were quickly spooked by the Nasdaq glitches and the failure of the stock to live up to the pre-IPO hype. That caused many of them to quickly shed their stakes.

So, they're sticking with the "it was NASDAQ, not the fact that FB is an over hyped turd priced at an obscene multiple.

Are we still going to be hearing about NASDAQ when FB is at $3, just like we keep hearing about "Bush v Gore" 12 f'ing years later?

I am sure there are a lot of Garage type start-ups in the world that can actually produce something the world needs as far as software and Tech is concerned. The world does not need Facebook. IM / AIM / IRC and so on is and was just fine as far as social contact is concerned...I don't need to see your pictures.

Facebook is a fad and it will get old with the masses like any other fad. Think $2 dollar stock.

Rickkk wrote:

As a result, Spain has 79 universities, spread across 236 campuses and offering 2,413 different undergraduate degrees as well as 2,758 masters’ degrees. José Ignacio Wert, Spain’s education minister, recently compared unfavorably such statistics with those of California, which has about 10 million fewer inhabitants and by his count only 10 universities.

Many of Spain's universities are the size of one room schoolhouses, especially the Catholic ones. Other ones are massive, sprawling complexes that would dwarf the UT Austin Campus if there were actual buildings on them instead of quad followed by quad. It's a cross betwee the US & German models: esoterica degrees coupled with 7+ year matriculation.

shill wrote:

I am sure there are a lot of Garage type start-ups in the world that can actually produce something the world needs

"Facebook, the web page" is NOT the product.

The users are the product.

Anyone with a window view on CDS trades?

Recovery or Collapse? Bet on Collapse |

"We are working toward a shift from a society centered on the love of money to one centered on the love of life..."
-David Korten, When Corporations Rule the World

David Korten - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wow, Elmo! as far as the eye can see.
Is today the first day of the rest of the summer?

No, but we are completely fogged in in the mountains this morning NN..there has been rain...

"Facebook, the web page" is NOT the product.

The users are the product.

Agreed, but they promote it as a Business. When in reality as Eric noted it is a web site not a product. Now if they created an Operating type system that runs facebook then it could be classified as a product...but this is not the case.

These are the products

http://2012patriot.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/sheeple-1b.jpg

Wow, Elmo! as far as the eye can see.

Turbulence or tribulation?

Outsider wrote:

"Recovery or Collapse? Bet on Collapse |"
We are working toward a shift from a society centered on the love of money to one centered on the love of life...

and hopefully 3 squares per day....

How lovely Bruce. We too have some fog after a good soaking rain overnight. Living in the mountains yields many gifts.

Let's hope for Capitulation

CK THINK OF THE 401K's.!!!!! For once. Snark

Outsider wrote:

Turbulence or tribulation?

The scales fall from their eyes.

Yeah, ya know I just can't get that worked up over them...maybe because I don't have one nor does it appear I'll have SS at the rate these ratbastards are screwing things up. Call me jaded...

It was foggy here this morning. The sunrise through the mist was quite pretty.

//Is today the first day of the rest of the summer? //

diēs caniculārēs

--bh

Date Time Economic Indicator Period Actual Forecast Previous Country
5/23/12 12:00 AM Current Account Balance - BoP MAR € -2.13 B € -1.09 B Greece

I don't suppose this could have bothered anyone...

RTTNews - Global Financial Newswires, Economic Calendar, Earnings Reports, Broker Ratings....

I have to jump on the broomstick and fly this morning.

Thanks all.

There are a lot of voices out there that we rarely/never hear, but they're there. "We are here! We are here!"

How to Liberate America from Wall Street Rule | New Economy Working Group

The report calls for building a money/banking/finance system of local financial institutions that are transparent, accountable, rooted in community and dedicated to funding activities that build community wealth and meet community needs. The proposed system will look quite similar to the one that existed in the United States before the wave of financial deregulation that began in the 1960s. The How to Liberate America from Wall Street Rule report briefly traces that history, outlines its devastating consequences, and presents an agenda for corrective action to change the system rules, structure, and culture.

Laterz Nanoo! I have to work today myself boooooo

blackhat wrote:

diēs caniculārēs

Ruh-roh

CK,

It is not ratbastards...

Rat bastards ALWAYS has sorry in front...

"Those sorry ratbastards are still cousins when they get divorced..."

...I majored in scatology....

Very interesting, Outsider. Thanks for the link.

Well that pop in treasuries was short lived. I'm beginning to doubt we make it through till election without another meltdown.

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