Credit it to the weather

You want to know the funny part- I read that link showing the fisheries stuff, and the record cold on the Bering Sea. My takeaway was that weather will be arriving shortly onshore and moving over the US mainland. A cold February may thus lie in wait.

But whatever, improvement is still happening, as people unfreeze their private economies and start living again, after they have decided that the zombie apocalypse is not going to happen in 2012.

Someday this war's gonna end...

Citizen AllenM wrote:

A cold February may thus lie in wait.

Same feeling here...

CR wrote: "faster expansion in January"

Jobs Report: As Many As Three Million Long-Term Unemployed Not Counted As Jobless Rate Drops

02/ 3/2012 12:34 pm

"The unemployment rate declined to 8.3 percent in January, from 8.5 percent in December. But if workers who have dropped out of the labor force were included, some economists estimate, the unemployment could be higher than 10 percent...

A recent study by Washington, D.C. consulting firm Hamilton Place Strategies estimates that there may be three million long-term unemployed people who are currently not being counted by the Labor Department because they have simply given up looking for work. Signs of an improving job market might bring them back to the labor force, which would push the unemployment rate higher.

In fact, the labor force participation rate fell to 63.7 percent in January from 64 percent in December, the lowest since January 1982, suggesting workers are still leaving the labor force."

Citizen AllenM wrote:

A cold February may thus lie in wait.

Wait, I was promised climate change. Where's my climate change?

Bubblisimo Gerkinov wrote:

"Caterpillar to close London, Ont. locomotive plant"

Just read it. So it begins again.

Could it be that after years of waiting for things to get better, years of hitting ones head against the wall to keep your life "normal" - businesses and households are adjusting to our new reality?

Just a thought. Humans can be slow learners, but we do learn.

Blackhalo wrote:

Wait, I was promised climate change. Where's my climate change?

Unusually warm winter, followed by a late cold snap with rampant severe weather, and then a monster hurricane season as things try to balance out...

You may get it.

josap wrote:

Could it be that after years of waiting for things to get better, years of hitting ones head against the wall to keep your life "normal" - businesses and households are adjusting to our new reality?
Just a thought. Humans can be slow learners, but we do learn.

Microwave burrito - it hasn't been frozen in all segments - some are actually caliente!

Citizen AllenM wrote:

"... they have decided that the zombie apocalypse is not going to happen in 2012."

Agreed. It is already underway.

Comrade Janošik wrote:

Unusually warm winter, followed by a late cold snap with rampant severe weather, and then a monster hurricane season as things try to balance out...
You may get it.

Sounds like last year except for the hurricane bit (for the Third Coast) - neither the plum tree nor the orange tree bore any fruit this past year after a hard freeze took every single blossom off of both trees...

energyecon wrote:

Microwave burrito - it hasn't been frozen in all segments - some are actually caliente!

Aye! Mucho!

So is the Fed behind the curve?
Is the US Congress and President ahead of the curve?
Can we grow away deficits?

I am so confused by the new normal. Tired

energyecon wrote:

the orange tree bore any fruit this past

I have 18 loquat (Japanese Plum) trees...about half of them have ripe fruit on them right now.
Puzzled

Dow
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Slumdog

Govt. Cheese wrote:

Can we grow away deficits?

Probably. As long as it is the right kind of growth. Asset bubbles ain't it though.

Microwave burrito - it hasn't been frozen in all segments - some are actually caliente!

See that income by County map earlier.
Mucho cilantro in some places....

Comrade Janošik wrote:

a monster hurricane season as things try to balance out...

Sure could have used at lease one hurricane in Texas this year.

The Oil Drum | The 2012 BP Energy Outlook 2030

When one considers that BP are forecasting an increase in demand of 8 mbd from China, 3.5 mbd from India, and 4 mbd from the Middle East, with the non-OPEC decline being at 6 mbd, there is a total of 21.5 mbd of new production being forecast, over the next 20 years. And of this, 12 mbd will come from OPEC, namely Saudi Arabia and Iraq, but with a significant contribution - 4 mbd - from NGLs.

At which point I cough gently and draw your attention to recent remarks (h/t Stuart Staniford) of the Saudi Oil Minister, who suggested that they have flexibility up to a full production of 12.5 mbd, with a little time; but, on the other hand, they will drop production to keep the price over $100 a barrel. And so there is a suspicion that as Libyan oil production returns to normal, Saudi production may fall in balance.

Blackhalo wrote:

one hurricane in Texas this year.

Maybe it's saving up so we can get one for which they have to invent a new category?

josap wrote:

Could it be that after years of waiting for things to get better, years of hitting ones head against the wall to keep your life "normal" - businesses and households are adjusting to our new reality?

I've been reading a lot of personal finance blogs lately. The "emotional content" is almost identical to the diet blogs. Lots of obsession about "consumption" versus "restriction." Enormous amounts of trivial confessions: "I bought a comic book! I ate a cupcake!" with lots of people chiming in to offer some sort of support or judgment. And the same sort of grumpiness, as of people who are restricting themselves against their will, and feel deprived as a result. So, I guess I think people are "adjusting," but not in a healthy way.

Govt. Cheese wrote:

Can we grow away deficits?

Ability doesn't matter without willingness.

We may or may not have the former. We unequivocally don't have the latter.

Rickkk wrote:

So it begins again.

Arizona's Republican Legislature could virtually wipe out public employee unions in a sweeping new package of legislation far broader than the collective-bargaining bills that shut down Wisconsin's Capitol last spring.

azcentral.com blogs - Brahm Resnik blog - Brahm1700 - Sweeping bills attack public employee unions

ee - heard more stories from the Bakken yesterday. Fast food jobs going for $17/hr on the interstate in NoDak - not even that close to the actual drill rig pads.

Nobody promised you Florida living outside the influence of the Gulf Stream or the ocean.

Further, summer may be scorching hot this year, as weather is, of course, variable.

But whatever, foolishness is now running rampant as everyone predicts a rerun of the last big crash.

I predict boredom instead. Of course, the market will correct 20% this year, but when? And then it will recover, Wall Street will pay bonuses, and it will be up 4% for the year.

And bonds will still pay garbage, and old folks will rage about it.

Meh. No massive increases in pay, nothing to sustain real inflation.

All the massive money being printed is going overseas into dead stockpiles held by foreign banks, central and private.

As a matter of fact, wrapping up the wars may have world deflation consequences.

Someday this war's gonna end....

Well....this is promising.....

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, by ERIC SCHNEIDERMAN vs JPMORGAN CHASE, CHASE HOME FINANCE, EMC MORTGAGE, BANK OF AMERICA, BAC HOME LOANS, WELLS FARGO, MERS and MORTGAGE ELECTRONIC REGISTRATION SYSTEMS | Foreclosure Fraud - Fighting Foreclosure Fraud

Schneiderman: MERS And Servicers Engaged In Deceptive and Fraudulent Practices That Harmed Homeowners And Undermined Judicial Foreclosure Process

NEW YORK – Attorney General Eric T. Schneiderman today filed a lawsuit against several of the nation’s largest banks charging that the creation and use of a private national mortgage electronic registry system known as MERS has resulted in a wide range of deceptive and fraudulent foreclosure filings in New York state and federal courts, harming homeowners and undermining the integrity of the judicial foreclosure process. The lawsuit asserts that employees and agents of Bank of America, J.P. Morgan Chase, and Wells Fargo, acting as “MERS certifying officers,” have repeatedly submitted court documents containing false and misleading information that made it appear that the foreclosing party had the authority to bring a case when in fact it may not have. The lawsuit names JPMorgan Chase Bank, N.A., Bank of America, N.A., Wells Fargo Bank, N.A., as well as Virginia-based MERSCORP, Inc. and its subsidiary, Mortgage Electronic Registration Systems, Inc.

it has been golfing weather in virginia all winter ... so far ... but the week forecast is more of the same ...

China plans to increase natural gas imports 45% this year. It will then comprise 5% of their total energy. They plan to raise retail reg gas prices April 1st. Their oil use forecasts a hard landing (GDP under 7% growth) tho. They plan to lend money to Yerp. The finance your customer for sales model of GE.

I am amazed at how little attention Pannetta's comments on a probable attack on Iran. Thought it would be a market mover...

dryfly wrote:

ee - heard more stories from the Bakken yesterday. Fast food jobs going for $17/hr on the interstate in NoDak - not even that close to the actual drill rig pads.

Wow, that sounds like.. umm... supply and demand in the labor markets! HCN! I've read about fast food jobs with signing money, not big bucks but the concept is alien. Some kind of term provision but they are definitely doing the resource boom rumba up thataways.

Mook wrote:

Can we grow away deficits?

Ability doesn't matter without willingness.

If said deficit spending doesn't result in GDP AND revenue growth that exceed the incremental size of the deficit, then the answer is obliviously no...Additionally, over time and as the total debt has grown, the multiplier for deficit spending has shrunk...it isn't clear why, but it isn't pretty...

I think it is extremely stupid, as it will cause the unions to revive in Az.

But hey, I don't expect any brilliance from those folks.

Someday this war's gonna end...

dryfly wrote:

ee - heard more stories from the Bakken yesterday. Fast food jobs going for $17/hr on the interstate in NoDak - not even that close to the actual drill rig pads.

Makes sense ... labour that would've normally stayed put to flip burgers now travels a bit for better jobs. Same employment knock-on effect that Alberta experienced when the tarsands operations started ramping up.

Citizen AllenM wrote:

Someday this war's gonna end....

I dunno, Iran may take a while...maybe till "The" end.

Of course, the market will correct 20% this year, but when?

recent articles on wall street $$s flowing to romney ... if they are looking for change it will have to be before election ... the only way O goes down.

Citizen AllenM wrote:

I think it is extremely stupid, as it will cause the unions to revive in Az.
But hey, I don't expect any brilliance from those folks.
Someday this war's gonna end...

Hey AllenM, did you run across the cost/benefit analysis for Alabama and their anti immigrant legislation?

http://cber.cba.ua.edu/New%20AL%20Immigration%20Law%20-%20Costs%20and%20Benefits.pdf

everyone on the golf course

NoDak- total population of 680k. I live in Phoenix metro area, which has nearly 4 million people. Tucson metro area has a million.

So they have have some local demand. Big deal.

Oil drops to $50, and they lay down the rigs. I thought we have done this before in the US?

Has everyone forgotten teh 80s? They do come after the 70s.

As for housing, demographic problems, a la the boomers.

Someday this war's gonna end...

"It's quiet...toooooo quiet. "

Everyone's getting ready to go short.

Was checking the BBC website, no paywall, and saw a video of an idea that the rethuglicans can copy in the up coming election. The Persians were celebrating 10year anniversary of Ayatollah Khomeini's return to Persia. The celebrations include parading a cardboard cutout of Khomeini through Teheran. The rethugs can use a cardboard cutout of St Ronnie. The rethugs need some good ideas for their campaign.

So keep on shrieking for hyperinflation, shill, and I await the arrival, as I have for the last five years.

I'll let Gold do the talking going forward. But then again Gold could be $3000 an ounce and HCN would still say...were deflating.

I snicker.

And by the way Allen no one is shrieking were conversing with opposing views...its called conversation.

poic wrote:

Everyone's getting ready to go short.

.... adding fuel to the rally ? ok by me.

shill wrote:

I'll let Gold do the talking going forward.

THE PRECIOUS IS SPEKING!!1!!1

JD, IS THAT YOU??

Everyone's getting ready to go short.

I got a margin call!

ughhhhh

THE PRECIOUS IS SPEKING!!1!!1

JD, IS THAT YOU??

I just said to myself now watch Eric chime in with nothing to add but flame comments and Bullshit as usual and five word sentences and here you are...man I should have threw down a $20 on that call.

I've read about fast food jobs with signing money, not big bucks but the concept is alien.

In 1997, in MN, I saw a Wendy's off 35-E that was advertising a $5,000 bonus for a manager who stayed 6 months. That's what I call a hot labor market...

Pretty sad when you know someone actions before they actually do it...we have been here way to long LMAO!

Citizen AllenM wrote:

So they have have some local demand. Big deal.
Oil drops to $50, and they lay down the rigs.

What's your point?

Not to worry, we won't be able to publish anything like that soon in Arizona: Format Document

So, if you have any negative data, we will bury it so far underground it will never see the light of day.

Goldwater Institute bilge- only their expertise will count, and only their data.

Someday this war's gonna end...

shill wrote:

.we have been here way to long LMAO!

Some of us even stick around after our calls go against us.

My most memorable sighting from the 90s.

Guy on a major street corner with a "Will Work for Food" sign.
Across the street behind him a McDonalds, with a giant, red "Now Hiring" sign.

Eric wrote:

Some of us even stick around after our calls go against us.

Not me. That's why I've made no calls.

Anybody know what's up with NaRm? Looks like he went off to the health club Jan. 17 and hasn't been seen since.

Wasn't he the one working on 20K posts?

Somebody wake up Lawyer Liz I want to ask her a question about FL RE.

Some of us even stick around after our calls go against us.

raises hand

I'll let Gold do the talking going forward [ and backwards ] [ and up] [ and down ] Fixed It For Ya

Comrade Elmer Fudd wrote:

he went off to the health club Jan. 17 and hasn't been seen since.

Hope he is ok.
Mabye found the perfect hottie at the health club and ran off with her.

@ dryfly and energyecon

CNBC has/had a piece on the Bakken boom.

Transcript available here

The Fueling Future: The Bakken Boom - CNBC

"raises hand "

I always wear a glove now. If I don't people scream when they see the stove-top burns.

Wasn't he the one working on 20K posts?

He headed off to No Dak to take advantage of some zombie fast food scam.

Eric, " Some of us even stick around after our calls go against us. "

Hay, You win some And You lose some. Smile

I like gold at $1700, but I remember that long drag from $800 to $250- when Hamburger Brown marked the bottom by selling the English Gold.

I foresee a long drag like that again, only the next bottom will only be at $600-700 range.

There are no mechanisms in place for hyperinflation. None.

The people simply shut down, and the economy grinds to a standstill, which is deflationary.

You have to really have an economy designed around continuous price increases, and nowhere for the money to flow overseas, like say, Brazil.

All that money we printed is gone out of the domestic economy in a flash, and doesn't come back except in a trickle, and every dollar that goes into banks in Shanghai, or Qatar, or Russia, or European Banks must be replaced or our domestic economy falters, again.

Deficits until the dollar is replaced as a world reserve currency, or the domestic economy finally gets up off the floor.

Someday this war's gonna end...

"Wasn't he the one working on 20K posts? "

That was me. That was my work goal for 2012.

@ dilbert

You mentioned a while ago that you were building a pulling boat.

I was hoping to hear from you what kind - guide boat, rushton, whitehall, etc.

josap wrote:

Maybe found the perfect hottie at the health club and ran off with her.

And I think they block HCN access in North Korea.

The 80s destroyed the domestic oil patch.

Low prices are destroying it again. No profits to be made in natty gas already, and oil is hanging by an Iranian thread, just like in the early 80s.

I lost a bunch on it before, and have no desire to repeat it again.

Someday this war's gonna end...

I was in Denver in the 80's. Boom bust easily being set up. Like any hot market when to jump off is most important.

Gas in my hood just hit $3.499, for the cheap stuff.

OK, sold VXX to cover the margin call, staying short...

I know, I know, I have that old feeling again, and that NYTimes article encapsulated the arguments well.

Ugh. Yet another bust, what shall take the place in this economy to stimulate?

Housing, dead.
Finance, dead.
Energy, on the edge.
Agriculture, on the edge.
I guess that just leaves Tech.
And Healthcare.

A slow decade.

Someday this war's gonna end...

MIC is ALWAYS willing to step in and lend a helping hand ...

Still counting average wages and inflation ex- food and energy?

The rich get richer.

Yet another bust, what shall take the place in this economy to stimulate?

Housing, dead.
Finance, dead.
Energy, on the edge.
Agriculture, on the edge.

scooters! Wheres MY pony?

Former Idealist wrote:

OK, sold VXX to cover the margin call, staying short...

Godspeed in your battle against Cthulhu.

re: "The Chinese have invaded."

woops. Guess the nativists will have to wait until 2014 to be sure. Unless, of course, yanno, they're keeping a private registry.

the answer to Deng's question in 2010, by the way, was 67,634 (the number of China's emigrants obtaining permanent US residence status). [5]


Despair in the air at Davos | Asia Times Online
>> Yearbook Immigration Statistics | DHS

poic wrote:

"It's quiet...toooooo quiet. "

Everyone's getting ready to go short.

Yes! Let's ALL go short on a weekend RIGHT BEFORE they make yet another announcement of a Greek Bailout....

Former Idealist wrote:

OK, sold VXX to cover the margin call, staying short...

Καλή τύχη

In an effort to cut the unemployment rate among veterans, President Barack Obama is calling for a new conservation program that would put veterans to work rebuilding trails, roads and levees on public lands.

The Associated Press: Obama pushes for veterans jobs programs

Former Idealist wrote:

I got a margin call!

SRSly?

76 million boomers walking around dead malls, or getting their medicare scooters.

I vote we refund cig taxes on smokers over 65- might as well let them die happy- and $20 packs of MJ for them too.

Someday this war's gonna end...

Citizen AllenM wrote:

Has everyone forgotten teh 80s?

Two billion additional people have entered the global economy since the 1980s. They too are now buying gas, using products with metal, eating food.

We either compete with them for those resources or WE go without. Our choice.

That is why the real price for most of these items will not go down. It hits $50 and there will be an explosion in demand - in Asia.

Spent all morning on the phone with Malaysia - believe cheap oil [and $50 is cheap] will be seen as VERY stimulative elsewhere.

Just saying'...

Godspeed in your battle against Cthulhu.

Irrational exuberance...adding to my shorts as well.

This would be a sale, on Puts.

The Washington Post reported Thursday that Panetta thinks "there is a strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June — before Iran enters what Israelis described as a 'zone of immunity' to commence building a nuclear bomb."

Panetta won’t confirm whether he thinks Israel will attack Iran this spring - The Hill's DEFCON Hill

Micron Technology chairman and CEO dies in plane crash

dryfly wrote:

We either compete with them for those resources or WE go without. Our choice.

There is another choice: finding alternatives...but that would require forethought and discipline....

black dog wrote:

'zone of immunity'

Odd phrase.
Cone of Silence?

I got a margin call!

SRSly?

its covered, for now.

Cinco-X wrote:

...but that would require forethought and discipline....

Oh, well I just had lunch. We can figure out dinner later.

Former Idealist wrote:

its covered, for now.

Best wishes and all...

"Yes! Let's ALL go short on a weekend RIGHT BEFORE they make yet another announcement of a Greek Bailout.... "

/dons Dooooooooooooooom!!! er thinking cap.

THIS TIME IT WON'T WORK
THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL SMITE DOWN THE FORNICATING HARLOT BANKSTERS

Citizen AllenM wrote:

But whatever, improvement is still happening, as people unfreeze their private economies and start living again, after they have decided that the zombie apocalypse is not going to happen in 2012.

Little do they realize that the hero's best buddy's dog is still carrying the virus.

We are due for one of those Europe Plan Must Include Growth Component Pigged s

Former Idealist wrote:

We are due for one of those Europe Plan Must Include Growth Component s

How This Gets Even Uglier - Tim Duy's Fed Watch

Wait, margin call.
Is that like when you have to actually cough up a little capital in order to play with other peoples 50:1 leveraged money?

poic wrote:

THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL SMITE DOWN THE FORNICATING HARLOT BANKSTERS

Evil

For Former:

YouTube - Randy Newman - Short People 

and JP 1st linked it, and still here to enjoy it!

poic wrote:

THE RIGHTEOUS SHALL SMITE DOWN THE FORNICATING HARLOT BANKSTERS

Its different this time

"The Labor Force Participation Rate declined to 63.7% in January (blue line). This is the percentage of the working age population in the labor force and is at the lowest since the early '80s. The decline in the participation rate is not good news even though it is pushing down the unemployment rate. The participation rate is well below the 66% to 67% rate that was normal over the last 20 years, although some of the decline is due to the aging population."

This is so interesting to me!!! It kind of mimics lower homeownership rate. In the coasts, those of us GenX and younger, can basically afford to be one-income households if we rent, not if we buy. If you couple this with the "Two-Income trap" and the "Opt-Out Revolution" ... it's inevitable to wonder whether the young moms opting out all around me will ever go back to work or figured that with super high marginal rates (after counting super high childcare costs and the like), they are paid not to join.

Wonder also about the shadow economy, some of these moms are doing little businesses on the side thanks to the internet. In a very family un-friendly labor mkt, these are among the few opportunities in US to work from home on a flexible schedule. These opportunities weren't available a generation ago.

Finance_Fan wrote:

"The Labor Force Participation Rate declined to 63.7% in January (blue line). This is the percentage of the working age population in the labor force and is at the lowest since the early '80s. The decline in the participation rate is not good news even though it is pushing down the unemployment rate. The participation rate is well below the 66% to 67% rate that was normal over the last 20 years, although some of the decline is due to the aging population."

Those folks weren't doing much work...probably spent most of their time blogging...

No one 17 and under admitted it all... at least I've got a kickass new game to play and a free weekend ahead in a couple short hours Smile

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

... at least I've got a kickass new game to play and a free weekend ahead in a couple short hours

I'm pensively awaiting DiabloIII to come out...I may schedule some vacation time just to play...Wink

it's inevitable to wonder whether the young moms opting out all around me will ever go back to work

Seeing alot of this around me. Especially holy rollers. I think there's prolly a HCN blog that coachs these folks in various scams and tax avoidance methods. Can't blame them. Both parents full time sucks...

Who Are The Cheerleaders For The New England Patriots?

  • Amanda Riddle, 24, of Tiverton, Rhode Island is a hospital pharmacist.
  • Patricia Fox, 23, of Westford, Massachusetts is an engineer.

That's Amanda Riddle, PhD. to you....

The auction, which may come as soon as next week, may involve about $6 billion of debt, said one of the people, who declined to be identified because the potential transaction is private. The central bank said it sold $7.01 billion in face value of the securities held by its Maiden Lane II vehicle on Jan. 19 to Credit Suisse Group AG after being approached with a bid by Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS)

Bloomberg

"Private auction", eh? Of publicly-owned assets. What a bunch of stinking crooks at the Federal Reserve. Still praising your pal Bernanke, CR? Con artist-thief of last resort.

Cinco-X wrote:

I'm pensively awaiting DiabloIII to come out...I may schedule some vacation time just to play..

I was supposed to be heading to Missouri, but looked at the weather reports and said NFW.

dryfly wrote:

They too are now buying gas, using products with metal, eating food.

Nonsense! The Fed is what is driving the prices higher. How are you even allowed to comment on CR?

energyecon wrote:

Hey AllenM, did you run across the cost/benefit analysis for Alabama and their anti immigrant legislation?

I love stories about those who take a dump in their hats and then clap them on their heads. Watch out for what you wish for.

Hope he is ok.
Mabye found the perfect hottie at the health club and ran off with her.

ha.

NaRm mentioned in his posts that he was leaving for Australia. Hope he didn't get eaten by a crocodile. Smile

js esq. wrote:

advertising a $5,000 bonus for a manager who stayed 6 months.

If they had added $5000 and "tote" they would have all the applicants they needed.

sum luk wrote:

How This Gets Even Uglier

competitiveness gap. Closing this gap will require actions on many fronts, not only wages, but it is clear that wages for the economy as a whole are too large compared to Greece’s productivity.

Remember the words "competitiveness gap". We may be hearing those words applied to many countries this year and next.

josap wrote:

Across the street behind him a McDonalds, with a giant, red "Now Hiring" sign.

You forgot the rest of the sign: Must Have Green Card

Finance_Fan wrote:

... it's inevitable to wonder whether the young moms opting out all around me will ever go back to work or figured that with super high marginal rates (after counting super high childcare costs and the like), they are paid not to join.

Yes, we may be going back to the 50s.
Although it may be the dad staying home with the kids.

Oman wrote:

Seeing alot of this around me. Especially holy rollers. I think there's prolly a HCN blog that coachs these folks in various scams and tax avoidance methods. Can't blame them. Both parents full time sucks...

Since I live in one of the most unaffordable areas in the US, renting may be cheaper than buying -- but it's still way too expensive for a one-income family unless that one income is pretty high for the area. Some are, most aren't. Unless they want to live 'way off the grid in a cabin with a couple of solar panels and a wood stove.

Citizen AllenM wrote:

The 80s destroyed the domestic oil patch.

I remember a story from that era. A new petroleum engineer asked an old timer how long the boom was going to last. The answer was: The Rest of Your Natural Life.

josap wrote:

Although it may be the dad staying home with the kids.

Quite a bit of that, I suspect.

It's like this, see: there is supply of oil, driven by drillers and refiners. There is supply of food, driven by growers and ranchers. Then there is demand for oil and food, driven by burners and eaters.

They are priced in these things called dollars, the supply of which is driven by the Fed.

If people work harder and make more phones per hour, so that profits get eliminated by competition, but the Fed prints money and hands it to the profiteers anyway, has there been "inflation"-- if wages stay the same and phone prices stay the same?

The participation rate is moving up the bankruptcy of Medicare and Social Security dramatically. Two sides to that coin.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

josap wrote:

Although it may be the dad staying home with the kids.

Quite a bit of that, I suspect.

Whoever makes the money. Of course Dad might still operate a craigslist or eBay business from the home, as somebody suggested above. Buying and selling, buying and refurbing and selling, etc. Better than nothing and all off the books.

A new study by an independent research group found that H-1B workers are better educated than U.S. born workers and earn more. The study also found that, on average, H-1B workers are about ten years younger than U.S. born workers. The findings undermine the argument that H-1B restrictions protect a well-paid domestic tech workers from skilled, and less well-paid, immigrant workers.

They also are better looking, drive nicer cars, and shop at the mall

Bull market melt-up in progress...Bob Seger (Live Bullet) cranking on the stereo..and a beautiful day here in the PNW (heading out after lunch for my first bike ride of the season)..life is good!!

Cinco-X wrote:

I'm pensively awaiting DiabloIII

I dunno, I'm feeling a bit disappointed with the way it's developing. Not enough grit...too safe.
Diablo is going lamestream.

josap wrote:

Remember the words "competitiveness gap". We may be hearing those words applied to many countries this year and next.

Competitiveness in Europe | Economics Blog

Bob Dobbs wrote:

Whoever makes the money. Of course Dad might still operate a craigslist or eBay business from the home, as somebody suggested above. Buying and selling, buying and refurbing and selling, etc. Better than nothing and all off the books.

It worked well enough for many women at home, during the Daddy State era. The worm turns.

Also the FAA is going to approve the use of "civilian" drones in the US this year. After all so many of us want to go drone flying at the beach or in neighborhoods with lots of swimming pools

Bob Dobbs wrote:

....Dad might still operate a craigslist or eBay business from the home, as somebody suggested above. Buying and selling, buying and refurbing and selling, etc. Better than nothing and all off the books.

Isn't at least one state banning some cash transactions for this reason...

Why is Micron still halted?

Isn't the purpose of a stock market to put a price on the news?

They also are better looking, drive nicer cars, and shop at the mall Fixed It For Ya

Unless they want to live 'way off the grid in a cabin

Usually a POS way out in the sticks; or, a townhouse way out in the exurbs. Bought for the tax break - I guess. Renting not much, if any, cheaper than buying (out there).

Cinco-X wrote:

Yes! Let's ALL go short on a weekend RIGHT BEFORE they make yet another announcement of a Greek Bailout....

But they do that EVERY weekend...

poic wrote:

They also are better looking, drive nicer cars, and shop at the mall

Were you "cured" of your "Yellow Fever"? Puzzled

Cinco-X wrote:

banning some cash transactions

Craig's List - all cash transactions.
E-Bay uses PayPal, those accounts are not reported.

josap wrote:

Craig's List - all cash transactions.
E-Bay uses PayPal, those accounts are not reported.

bitcoin love ... coming to a grey-market retailer near you in the future

Cinco-X wrote:

That's Amanda Riddle, PhD. to you....

doctor of PHARMACY degree, not pharmacology

Eric wrote:

Isn't the purpose of a stock market to put a price on the news?

No silly, it's purpose is to "go up".

Comrade Janošik wrote:

No silly, it's purpose is to "go up".

Ah, "Speech"

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

a grey-market retailer

"Discount for Cash" or "Cash Only"
We have a restaurant near us that only accepts cash, haven't seen any discount signs yet.

Stay at home mom scam.

Go to a certain place (shall remain nameless) where they have 10% off coupons for big box store.
Take all of the coupons (this girl is a christian but He put these coupons there for a reason)
Put said coupons on Ebay - and they actually sell like hotcakes! PROFIT!
Rinse, repeat, with many variations all day long.

Good morning.

Antipodes, why is it you don't fall off the world when you're upside down like that? Must be stronger gravity under there. Does your coffee stay in the cup?

Page not found | Fukushima Diary

Councilor of radiation belonging to Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare returned the report to allow them to raise the safety limit of infant food, which is from 50 Bq/Kg to 100 Bq/Kg.

Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare has been asking the councilor for the opinion which is more friendly to agricultural industry.

As the reason, the councilor states even if an infant takes 100 Bq/Kg of food everyday, the yearly internal dose would be less than 1 mSv.

However, even this limit may be raised because some of the stakeholder of fishing and agricultural industry claim it is still too strict, it’s harmful for the reconstruction of the disaster area.

Facepalm

Outsider wrote:

Does your coffee stay in the cup?

Silly, we hold our cups upside down. Big smile

Antipodes wrote:

some of the stakeholder of fishing and agricultural industry claim it is still too strict, it’s harmful for the reconstruction of the disaster area.

Profit is more important.

Antipodes wrote:

Silly, we hold our cups upside down.

No, that's right side up to us!

Oman wrote:

Rinse, repeat, with many variations all day long.

Just make sure you report your income to uncle sam. Steve

'Naked' airport X-ray body scanners banned by Europe over cancer fears | Mail Online

Controversial ‘naked’ body scanners, already in use at Manchester Airport, could be withdrawn after EU chiefs warned that they could pose a health risk due to the radiation they emit.

The £80,000 security scanners, introduced to detect suspicious items hidden on passengers, have already been criticised as an invasion of privacy due to the apparent ‘naked’ image that they produce of travellers.

But the new information from the European Commission raises fears that the radiation from the machines could cause long-term health damage such as cancer.

Another example.

Whenver you see a free item, for trial, as part of a special or whatever send away and get it.
Then return it to Walmart for CASH, Profit!

FTR-
These are scams I've witnessed. My wife and I are hourly wage slaves.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

It worked well enough for many women at home, during the Daddy State era. The worm turns.

Tupperware and Avon had better adapt to the new workforce.

1 currency now -yogi wrote:

They are priced in these things called dollars, the supply of which is driven by the Fed.

Money is fungible.

http://www.nber.org/feldstein/dollarandpriceofoil.syndicate.08.pdf

The thinking behind the question of whether oil would cost less today if it were priced in euros
seems to be that, since the dollar has fallen relative to the euro, this would have contained the
rise in the price of oil. In reality, the currency in which oil is priced would have no significant or
sustained effect on the price of oil when translated into dollars, euros, yen, or any other currency.

Here is why. The market is now in equilibrium with the price of oil at $120. That translates into
75 euros at the current exchange rate of around $1.60 per euro. If it were agreed that oil would
instead be priced in euros, the quoted market-equilibrating price would still be 75 euros and
therefore $120. Any lower price in euros would cause excess global demand for oil, while a price
above 75 euros would not create enough demand to absorb all of the oil that producers wanted to
sell at that price.

Of course, the rate of increase of the price of oil in euros during the past year was lower than the
rate of increase in dollars. The euro price of oil in May 2007 was 48 euros, or 56% below its
current price. But that would be true even if oil had been priced in euros.

The coincidence of the dollar decline and the rise in the oil price suggests to many observers that
the dollar’s decline caused the rise in the price of oil. That is only true to the extent that we think
about the price of oil in dollars, since the dollar has fallen relative to other major currencies. But
if the dollar-euro exchange rate had remained at the same level that it was last May, the dollar
price of oil would have increased less.

The key point here is that the euro price of oil would be the same as it is today. And the dollar
price of oil would have gone up 56%. The only effect of the dollar’s decline is to change the

price in dollars relative to the price in euros and other currencies.

ResistanceIsFeudal wrote:

No, that's right side up to us!

OK, you found me out. We actually perform constant handstands. It's not easy drinking coffee whilst performing a one arm handstand, believe me.

nova wrote:

independent research group

Now that is an interesting concept.

"....indicates faster expansion in January"

I wonder what Oven Mitt is going to talk about now?

Tongue

Do you have handles on your floors? I always wondered about that.

Laughing out loud

:Gotta console the wailing middle schooler again. Life is hard when you're in public school 5th grade.:

nova wrote:

Also the FAA is going to approve the use of "civilian" drones in the US this year. After all so many of us want to go drone flying at the beach or in neighborhoods with lots of swimming pools

Did you see the guys flying "drones", RC aircraft, that looked like men near NY city?

No. I would think that would be illegal. I hope they were white males wearing polo shirts and expensive cologne

black dog wrote:

The Washington Post reported Thursday that Panetta thinks "there is a strong likelihood that Israel will strike Iran in April, May or June

Man, those war mongers don't give up. We just wind up one war where we were promised WMD's and Democracy among other unicorns and fairies and all along the way implausible stories about Iran as the bad actor are fed into the MSM prepping for the next one.

I'm not saying Iran is falsely accused. I'm saying their nation building/defending activities aren't a pretex for war.

Just a couple of days ago wasn't it the ISM that modified their seasonality factoring to include more outliers? So, this data should be viewed with less confidence than data from 2011.

The quick shrinking of the US population since Obama became president should make the headlines worldwide. I wonder what happens to all those people disappearing.

Finance_Fan wrote:

it's inevitable to wonder whether the young moms opting out all around me will ever go back to work or figured that with super high marginal rates (after counting super high childcare costs and the like), they are paid not to join.

The fact that 50% of the marriages in the US fail will no doubt play a role in their decision of whether to return to work.

No young dads opting to stay home? How retro of the young parents.

Not much commentary here on the Schneiderman lawsuit.

CR, has this changed your thinking at all on the settlement?

The quick shrinking of the US population since Obama became president should make the headlines worldwide. I wonder what happens to all those people disappearing.

Word on the street is Ron Paul takes them out to his ranch and eats them.

dilbert dogbert wrote:

nova wrote:

Also the FAA is going to approve the use of "civilian" drones in the US this year. After all so many of us want to go drone flying at the beach or in neighborhoods with lots of swimming pools

Did you see the guys flying "drones", RC aircraft, that looked like men near NY city?

The drone thing is a very active hobby niche turning into an industry right now. The hobbyists have been trying to get this done for years now. It will be interesting to see where the lines between hobbyist and industrial application are drawn. Big MIC probably bought lots of lunches at the FAA for this one.

To be revised down.

Same as always.

Obama better be sly with these numbers tho if people start to actually believe there really are plentiful jobs, the unemployment rate will skyrocket.

dirty_juheesus wrote:

Man, those war mongers don't give up.

To paraphrase an old ad: When Israel talks, Washington listens.

Word on the street is Ron Paul takes them out to his ranch and eats them.

Ya only the minorities, after all he's racist ...right? Since all's OK now,maybe it"s time to raise rates.

Oh wait that's 2014...Laughter fills the room.

dilbert dogbert wrote:

Man, those war mongers don't give up.

To paraphrase an old ad: When Israel talks, Washington listens.

Yeah, but we'll never know how much is U.S. pretext vs. Israeli war mongering. It is impossible to ignore the years of ridiculous stories about Iran's various efforts that supposedly threatened American interests.

josap wrote:

We have a restaurant near us that only accepts cash, haven't seen any discount signs yet.

I'm seeing a few more small, informal restaurants -- breakfast places, taquerias -- go that route without discounts. It's just easier. Throw an ATM in the corner for those with plastic but no cash. One locals breakfast place we know of takes no cards but will take local checks.

Most of the Korean run places here only take cash.

Dont let the Brits off the hook either.

Those sleazy bastards are almost always hip deep in the shit when it comes to involving the US in a war.

Cheerio old sport! Let's you and him fight.

We have a restaurant near us that only accepts cash, haven't seen any discount signs yet.

Fees are tied to using CC terminal fees and so on , and then you have batching and more waiting for your money.

Gary wrote:

Not much commentary here on the Schneiderman lawsuit.

Let's see how many other AsG sign on first.

nova wrote:

They also are better looking, drive nicer cars, and shop at the mall

Nova, this last sentence I can believe the other is just Trial Balloon and Kool-Aid. Oh Hell why don't we all just become lobbyist and write for MNC's or our own government.

sum luk wrote:

The Capital Spectator: Private Payrolls Post A Surprisingly Strong Gain In January

At this rate, we'll be back to full employment by 2020!

dirty_juheesus wrote:

It is impossible to ignore the years of ridiculous stories about Iran's various efforts that supposedly threatened American interests.
I remember all those Iraq super drones that were going to drop NBC on the US.

shill wrote:

Fees are tied to using CC terminal fees and so on , and then you have batching and more waiting for your money.

This restaurant is a mom & pop place. He cooks & she waits tables.
Decor is nonexistant, food is great and prices are cheap.

MaryAnn,

It's no big deal. We took the place from the Indians and the Indians are reclaiming it

For you Dawg

55 acre farm on Hudson

Selling 40% interest in a 55 acre farm on Hudson River. Farm house, one horse barn, airstrip with air hanger, two boat launchs and dock, 44,000 square foot warehouse, 2400 square foot office, mechanic shop.

Oman wrote:

Here's some Pron for energyecon:
PA DEP Oil & Gas Reporting Website - Production Reports

PA needs to get to a monthly production reporting structure, they are unique (not in a good way) in reporting 6 month increments of production...

dirty_juheesus wrote:

The drone thing is a very active hobby niche turning into an industry right now. The hobbyists have been trying to get this done for years now.

I guess I'm ahead of the trend here again. I have a drone.
YouTube - Remote Control Fun Air Swimmer Inflatable Floating Shark Toy

Mine's the clownfish. I got a shark for my nephews Laughing out loud

This restaurant is a mom & pop place. He cooks & she waits tables.
Decor is nonexistant, food is great and prices are cheap.

We have a few diners this way who are cash only as well. Same deal mom and pop, great food.

Decor, mostly sports memorabilia.

nova wrote:

It's no big deal. We took the place from the Indians and the Indians are reclaiming it

One casino at a time. Slow and steady as they say so no one gets excited.
The LAT had an article about a San Diego tribal band that kicked out 150 members. The interesting part of the article was that the band members were getting around 100K each from the casino. WooHoo!

dryfly wrote:

Two billion additional people have entered the global economy since the 1980s. They too are now buying gas, using products with metal, eating food.
We either compete with them for those resources or WE go without. Our choice.
That is why the real price for most of these items will not go down. It hits $50 and there will be an explosion in demand - in Asia.
Spent all morning on the phone with Malaysia - believe cheap oil [and $50 is cheap] will be seen as VERY stimulative elsewhere.
Just saying'...

YES. Also, the oil states will be in very precarious positions if oil prices hit $50 for any length of time, even KSA needs $90 oil now to balance the books... production drops during civil unrest.

dirty_juheesus wrote:

The drone thing is a very active hobby niche turning into an industry right now. The hobbyists have been trying to get this done for years now. It will be interesting to see where the lines between hobbyist and industrial application are drawn. Big MIC probably bought lots of lunches at the FAA for this one.

I want to see "neigborhood watch" groups with their own drones. Endless fun and blackmail opportunities.

Cinco-X wrote:

There is another choice: finding alternatives...but that would require forethought and discipline....

Be sure you are also not promising Wheres MY pony? and That elusive pot of gold - the problem with alternatives goes beyond "gosh if we just buckled down..."

gold and cancer therapy

Me da undertook the regime late last year to arrest potential prostate cancer. He's mmm 83-years-old, prone to over-utilize generous medical coverage benefits available to and paid by retired federal employees of a certain grade. A "routine" MRI during the summer last "revealed" microscopic, asymptomatic cellular dysplasia that "routine" PSAs and clinical examination for enlargement had not detected over 20 years. So. Stage I: surgical implant of gold-198 "seeds"; Stage II: attend ecumenical services; Stage III: (46) forty-six daily radiation exposures; Stage IV: profit, trial success, spiritual redemption.

Brachytherapy Treatment

dirty_juheesus wrote:

It is impossible to ignore the years of ridiculous stories about Iran's various efforts that supposedly threatened American interests.

Probably quite a few old school CIA folks who did not like how that whole Shah thing worked out. Bit of a blemish one might say.

Meanwhile, the tragicomedy in Europe continues.

Sorry, but I won't be buying equities.

Finally some MERS suits starting up:

New York Sues Banks Over Mortgage Registry System - WSJ.com

Gotta start fixing that some time.

sum luk wrote:

The Capital Spectator: Private Payrolls Post A Surprisingly Strong Gain In January

I was looking at the labor numbers today, and found that year-over-year non-farm payrolls grew by 1.5% (Jan 2011-Jan 2012), while the civilian labor force grew by only .75%. Jobs are being created at a faster rate than the growth in the civilian labor force (which includes both employed and unemployed workers).

Sebastian

Mike in Long Island wrote:

For you Dawg

55 acre farm on Hudson

Selling 40% interest in a 55 acre farm on Hudson River.

LOL, 40% interest! You get the bog, the hardscrabble, the wilderness set aside and the tax liability.

I'd rather have something in Hudson MA.

Former Idealist wrote:

The participation rate is moving up the bankruptcy of Medicare and Social Security dramatically. Two sides to that coin.

Make Medicare available to all, that would help, as would authorizing Medicare to negotiate w/BigPharma as the VA does. Getting the private insurers out of Medicare (single payer). Plenty of useful models in other nations that the US could adopt. I can think of plenty health self-employed people who'd like to be able to buy into Medicare so they could afford health care when they needed it/preventive care. The US might see more people starting their own businesses or being "entrepreneurs" if they were freed from the need to stay w/a corporation that, at the moment, provides them w/an affordable way of obtaining health care (esp true of people w/children).

Remove the income cap AND impose SS tax on the bonuses, etc., that banksters & hedge fund managers get and any income they call capital gains that is "earned" in the course of their work. Lots more $$ would be flowing into the trust fund.

It's not the concepts of Medicare & SS that are the problem, it's the way they're being implemented that is, as is the idea that somehow the DoD doesn't need to be self-supporting but Medicare (providing health care) to people does.

Seems to have nothing to do w/any economic reality, because MDs, RNs, Ph.Ds, LPN, pharmacists etc. are all jobs "created" by the need for health care. Not so easy to offshore (except for reading diagnostic images, with the usual poor results).

DoD doesn't create that many more or better jobs--although it does "produce" many more people who need substantial health care until they die and/or are entitled to government transfer income for the rest of their lives because of their reduced work productivity. Who might otherwise have never needed those "benefits."

It's political only. Wealthy/corporate elite have been wanting to destroy SS & Medicare for years. That & roll back any labor laws, environmental laws, anything that interferes w/their exploitation & poisoning for short term profit. Rant

energyecon wrote:

YES. Also, the oil states will be in very precarious positions if oil prices hit $50 for any length of time, even KSA needs $90 oil now to balance the books... production drops during civil unrest.

I'm predicting that 2012 will be a very special year. There are so many potential black swans hovering nearby that the odds favor one or two of them landing. And that doesn't even count the ones that even We Annointed Here don't suspect.

nova wrote:

Also the FAA is going to approve the use of "civilian" drones in the US this year.

Armed? Or will that be reserved for those members of the elite who need to be "kept safe" from all the riffraff?

Gee, I guess the return to Mexico due to the lack of jobs aqui en El Norte might be a reason.

Plus, that little thing called a census trued up population statistics.

Now we just watch this slow motion circus of an election, and await the boring conclusion.

The momentum of this country is immense, and change only comes with a sledgehammer.

The boomers are tired of sledgehammers, and they just want their scooter, social security, and a binkie.

Now the working class is impoverished, the rich gotta pay- because the greyboomers gotta lotta votes.

This means you: Mirror mirror on the wall, who is paying for this all?

Someday this war's gonna end...

nova wrote:

It's no big deal. We took the place from the Indians and the Indians are reclaiming it

Yes dear my homeland was actually where the Native Indians had been run off and the kids got to play with all the left behind Indian Rocks and climb the Indian Mounds. The Indians from India have intergrated into our small community and seem to be doing very well.

Citizen AllenM wrote:

Now the working class is impoverished, the rich gotta pay- because the greyboomers gotta lotta votes.

The rich are working on that pesky voting thing; hope you got a picture ID and birth certificate when you show up at the polls in 2016.

Rob Dawg wrote:

I'd rather have something in Hudson MA.

One of the prettiest farms I have ever seen in my life.

NNEREN.com : Listing Detail

Sorry, but I won't be buying equities.

Puts are nice and cheap today Smile

Citizen AllenM wrote:

greyboomers

Being a greyboomer sucks and I can't wait untill you get there.

Sebastian wrote:

I was looking at the labor numbers today, and found that year-over-year non-farm payrolls grew by 1.5% (Jan 2011-Jan 2012), while the civilian labor force grew by only .75%. Jobs are being created at a faster rate than the growth in the civilian labor force (which includes both employed and unemployed workers).
Sebastian

Facepalm

Labor. Force. Participation. Rate.

Going grey genX, wanting you to move out of my nice retirement home in the country because you can't do stairs with that broken hip Wink You have ten years until I am ready.

The reality is that so many people are going to be leaving rural America, either feet first, or to move closer to medical care. You do realize rural America has a huge and growing healthcare shortage?

Demographic trendz iz destiny, America.

Unless you can talk all the boomers into moving to NoDak?

Thought so.

Someday this war's gonna end...

MaryAnn wrote:

Being a greyboomer sucks and I can't wait untill you get there.

I'm a greyish boomer, mid-50s. I had a 1948-or-so model greyboomer bust my chops at work the other day because she couldn't get everything she wanted from my unit at the last minute and (close paraphrase) all she's trying to do is survive two more years on the job until she retires so she doesn't care what hob she plays with the rest of us. As we are a service unit and are supposed to keep our cool, I refrained from telling her that I'll be working long past the age she is now. And she might be, too, for that matter.

Labor. Force. Participation. Rate.

Laughing out loud

Seb wants to believe! That elusive pot of gold

Not that theres anything wrong with that.

Jobs are being created at a faster rate than the growth in the civilian labor force

not all jobs equal ... looking at tax collections (assuming NFP accurate) ... "new" jobs are for less pay and/or part time than "old' jobs.

I would add that Josap is making the smart move ahead of the crowd, but most don't move until pushed, or collapse.

No zombie apocalypse, then you get the problem faced by George Ure of UrbanSurvival- built the east Texas doomstead, improved it up nicely, and nobody is willing to pay what he has into it. Low 60s, wants to move closer to grandkids and kids up in PNW cities. Goes to show, overimproving in a hillbilly neighborhood just means some relitter gets a fantastic deal when you gotta go.

Like all the crapola outside of Aspen that is now waaaaay overpriced. Who you gonna sell it too? Me?

Let me check my spare change.

Someday this war's gonna end...

Citizen AllenM wrote:

Demographic trendz iz destiny, America.
Unless you can talk all the boomers into moving to NoDak?

I wouldn't be surprised to see middle America get a mass influx from sand states and the coasts.

Citizen AllenM wrote:

or to move closer to medical care.

Some of us run away from those guys, scamsters that they are.

Um, involuntary retirement greeted a bunch of them during the last downturn, and I know for a fact manglement targeted the ones that made everyone else miserable. A positive doom and gloom outlook is handy. Further, pissing off minions serves no purpose, unless you like your demise served with a happy helping of schadenfreude.

Someday this war's gonna end...

scone wrote:

One of the prettiest farms I have ever seen in my life.
NNEREN.com : Listing Detail

Majestic 32acre Gentleman's Farm

They can farm Gentlemen? Please don't let my wife know.

shill wrote:

Hoh Hoh! MERS Gets Hit With A Piano! in [Market-Ticker]

You have to remember that a great deal of effort went into building MERS to end-run the old system. I suspect a few of these entirely legitimate litigation efforts are going to die before they hit the jackpot.

Remember how long it took big tobacco to finally succumb to shifting smoking perceptions and ensuing litigation in the U.S? It's going to go slow like that. And big tobacco is still around. It's going to take quite a bit of effort to kill MERS and I'm not entirely sure it will happen. It should happen, but that's different.

energyecon wrote:

Labor. Force. Participation. Rate.

People keep bringing that up, but it doesn't seem to have much meaning or impact, considering all the other more-favorable forces in the economy.

Sebastian

Yes, money is fungible. However, currencies besides USD circulate the globe. ppl corporations that purchase oil need not, are not lawfully required, to settle sales with exchange of USD --even if that unit of measure is the agreed, or formal, FX basis of valuation a commodity or service.

The correspondent to which you refer appears incapable of calculating purchasing price parity (PPP) of currencies, absent Crazy IMF SDR bounded rationale. This is an error, given that the utility of finite commodities already exceeds market valuations of Crazy IMF units of measurement.

PS: Pigged barter (valuation)
PPS: Pigged bi-lateral trade agreement between Crazy IMF dependents. You're not going to get that news from NYT or FT, btw.
PPPS: most recently, Gazprom's having some difficulty, again, delivering to EU markets. What a surprise, ceteris paribus, not.

Bob Dobbs wrote:

I had a 1948-or-so model greyboomer

I'm a 1944 self employed that goes to work everyday. One important thing in aging is watch what happened to your own parents when they passed the age of retirement and just know their DNA is supreme in your DNA at this point in your life only altered by your past 65 years of lifestyle.

People keep bringing that up, but it doesn't seem to have much meaning or impact, considering all the other more-favorable forces in the economy.

Sebastian

Favorable forces?.... you mean like seasonal adjustments?

dirty_juheesus wrote:

It's going to take quite a bit of effort to kill MERS and I'm not entirely sure it will happen. It should happen, but that's different.

I dunno. A lot of what MERS is, is an effort to circumvent state law to allow for MBS to work. All it takes is for one state to get close to a payout, and the rest will smell blood. I guess keeping any verdict tied up on appeal will be one way to stave off the inevitable.

People keep bringing that up, but it doesn't seem to have much meaning or impact, considering all the other more-favorable forces in the economy.

Stocks only go up!!!!!!

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