Mortgage Settlement Update: Some details, Deal to be announced in January "at the earliest"
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no bank failures today
okay, went back and read
sorry I did
merry Christmas bitchez
2nd?
Volker, I think the FDIC is done for the year.
Except for this: "Four federal agencies on Friday extended until February 13, 2012, the comment period on a proposal to implement the so-called Volcker Rule of the Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act."
FDIC: Press Releases - PR-197-2011 12/23/2011
We will probably see this agreement announced in January, and also the Fannie / Freddie program to sell REO in bulk.
So, if some AGs are out, can there really be a huge deal?
I've read three articles about the payroll tax cut extension and while they all have plenty to say about the politics of who's winning and losing and how they're all going to try hard to get the next ten months going too, I can't find ANYTHING about how much the two-month extension costs and if or how it's paid for. Did somebody give up a sacred cow of cuts or spending or did they just chuck it to the creditors?
volker the viking wrote:
Volker<
May you and the Nazi have days of joy and happiness.
where's my :magicwand:
SOPA bill: Go Daddy yanks support after boycott - Tony Romm - POLITICO.com
in a system ruled by precedent, having withstood the test of appeal, especially unto a final authority, it renders further attempts problematic save for some new slant or aspect of the situation
and even then it would be tough to pull off
This sounds very affordable. What's the monthly nut on this settlement?
Must be nice to make 100's of billions from fraud and then only pay 10% or so in settlement fee's.
Nice work if you can get it I guess.
postlibertarian wrote:
It's D.C. Nothing is ever paid for.
And pay the fee with free money.
UK authorities fight for MF Global's $700 million - Dec. 23, 2011
U.S. and UK authorities are wrestling over $700 million in funds from MF Global customers that has been found in the failed futures and commodities trader's London operations.
The U.S. bankruptcy court trustee says that the $700 million in MF Global client funds is all from U.S. customers and should be returned to them by the British authorities. But the Joint Special Administrator of MF Global UK said only that the $700 million has been discovered in client funds and that it is not prepared to distribute the money yet.
:chuckle:
Huge, absolutely HUGE. This will send a stern warning to the banks that actions like this will NOT be tolerated. This proves that while - yes - there were some abuses, but -overall - by and large, in general, that overall, by and large, the system of regulatory checks and balances work very well.
We really need to move on so that we can restore confidence in our financial services industry and our great and glorious nation can have continued growth and provide jobs and opportunities for all the people of this great and glorious nation.
Eric, I've heard they will get a couple of weeks to opt back in. And I suspect they will opt in ... although I think the key for the banks is the orgination immunity - and that might keep a few states from joining.
Ho...... Ho...... Ho.....
just buy AOT @ MKT.
CalculatedRisk wrote:
But what happens if a big one like NY stays out?
no
postlibertarian wrote:
Well, costs are kinda old-school, don't you think? And, I think we've stop using the word "paid" as this is no longer a relevant concept. Let's just say it was a win-win for the Kabuki show.
We need more quotes from “Pillars of Prosperity” to reassure them that traditional American prosperity will return with traditional American values and Government.
What? Tradiiitiooonnnnn......
In my best Teve voice.
Outside, this money in the UK brings up the rehypothecation angle again (since the UK rules are so loose). It will be interesting when they figure out what happened. Geesh - are we living in the pre-computer ages? That should be able to track every transfer
in january "at the earliest"
in other words - we are going to milk this sucker to the cows come home ... any time the market looking a little sickly ... liesman will be breathless with a settlement "imminent" ...
Oursider, I left a comment about collateral damage from the mf global BK on the last thread.
Oops, shudda said Outsider and CR..
124.48
"no Slumdog Sad"
/checks SRS
What's that smell in my
and how come they're so lumpy?
postlibertarian wrote:
My grandson calls this type of attitude "quelling the vibe" and it can disturb an otherwise mellow eggnog.
17B, huh? Well, what's in it for me?
jpm's Q1 forecast - "we are revising up the average annualized real GDP growth rate from 1.0% to 2.5%, due to better personal income and consumption outcomes."
really? personal income? how? Todays personal income number 0.1% came in less than consensus of 0.2% ... and what gain came in the top 20 neighborhood.
That should be able to track every transfer
It only tracks OUR every transfer, not THEIR every transfer.
I wonder who gets the interest on that 700m, if it does earn interest while it's sitting around. I know if I found it, I'd stick it in an interest bearing account and try to stall them as long as possible. But they may not be as devious as me.
You all are hilarious. But I think I found it:
Skittles the Unicorn wrote:
Roughly a Lear Jet lug nut.
poic wrote:
You're losing your marbles?
In a sign of bipartisanship and Christmas Cheer the left-leaning turds and right-leaning turds in Congress agreed to a deal that cut's taxes and increases spending.
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Skittles the Unicorn wrote:
Sounds like he needs a haircut and a JOB!
Federal social insurance taxes are imposed equally on employers[5] and employees,[6] consisting of a tax of 6.2% of wages up to an annual wage maximum ($106,800 in 2010) for Social Security and a tax of 1.45% of all wages for Medicare.[7] For the year 2011, the employee's contribution has been temporarily reduced to 4.2%, while the employer's portion remained at 6.2%.[8] To the extent an employee's portion of the 6.2% tax exceeded the maximum by reason of multiple employers, the employee is entitled to a refundable tax credit upon filing an income tax return for the year.[9]
"You're losing your marbles? "
Nahh I'm a farmer. I turned SRS into a :shit sandwich:
Sounds like he needs a haircut and a JOB!
Relax, he's in Hawaii. They're all like that there.
(I know because I watched Surfs Up.) (A few times.)
poic wrote:
The best thing tho is every day in which we spend more while paying less, we prove how deficits really don't matter; which - unfortunately for many - proves Krugman and the "Keynesians" (quotes) right.
Outsider wrote:
Lil Penguin, I like, dudette, like, know, like, how they are
THOSE people, I swear.
In a sign of bipartisanship and Christmas Cheer the left-leaning turds and right-leaning turds in Congress agreed to a deal that cut's taxes and increases spending.
reid said today he stilling gunning for the surtax on millionaires on full year extension ...
poic wrote:
Turd Rancher.
HomeGnome wrote:
Nah. That's me. The kid started a software development company and has more moola than the old Greek guy Crosus, Creoss, the guy whose name I can't spell after my eggnog breakfast. That guy.
we prove how deficits really don't matter; which - unfortunately for many - proves Krugman and the "Keynesians" (quotes) right.
till they do
i like round numbers ... $20 trillion (2 or 3 more years) before market says "funs over" ...
Skittles the Unicorn wrote:
Go clean a public park bathroom or something you lazy loafer!!!
---Happy HolyDaze to you and yours, Skittles.
Santa Claus delivered gifts on Wall St early, & often, & all week long.
a mile wide and an inch deep
Croesus before using teh Goog...
edit: hazards of some classical education Croesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A couple of interesting graphs for you manufacturing types:
Chart of the Day: International Manufacturing Compensation Costs Compared | Credit Writedowns
Also some real potential Red and Blue Team screaming points (not that we care about that on a housing blog).
Justice Dept. rejects South Carolina voter ID law, calling it discriminatory - The Washington Post
volker the viking wrote:
I'll take Mrs. Volkers ass for $200, Alex.
a mile wide and an inch deep
yep ... no discipline in DC ... market will force it ... eventually
I saw this at the library and wondered if it was you HG.
But the trailer isn't exactly what it looked like on the cover.
Still, it's kind of interesting.
Trailer ("Garbage Warrior")
HomeGnome wrote:
pavel assured me people don't really talk like this.
I am deeply troubled.
I got your recovery right here:
Americans continue to buy less gasoline - latimes.com
"Flat" reads like a stock pickers "hold"...
pavel assured me people don't really talk like this.
Did he actually use the word "normal"?
"pavel assured me people don't really talk like this."
The Vatican tends to be more of a doer than a talker when it comes to ass.
CalculatedRisk wrote:
I'm sure they can...but who's going to chip at the "special relationship" and make them give it back?
bye y'all
I got a lot of problems with you people!
gabyjan wrote:
Later gaby.
May you and yours have peace and contentment.
Gary wrote:
THOSE people suck, Gary!
I got a lot of problems with you people!
We have problems with us too. That's why we're here.
I better go now.
Eric wrote:
You're dropping the extra weight in 2012, AREN"T YOU ERIC!!!
Eric wrote:
Should I start calling you "Mary" now.....
Outsider wrote:
That rug tied the room together, man!
I may go to hell for that last comment
pavel was merely following Festivus tradition, airing his grievances.
And remember, Festivus isn't over until bearly pins me.
"Festivus isn't over until bearly pins me. "
FAMILYBLOG
:mind bleach:
Outsider wrote:
Why do all the girls leave at once?
she has a chance now that she's away from you
for the
Indianapolis Colts would secure No. 1 pick with Week 17 loss - ESPN
because of short shit and nimrod
volker the viking wrote:
No doubt.
Don't worry, I nixed his "couch wrasslin' " proposal.
volker the viking wrote:
Turn out the light, baby.
volker the viking wrote:
You'll need to be more specific, at least about nimrod....
"Turn out the light, baby. "
Have you read his replies lately. He did that a long time ago.
HomeGnome wrote:
Who determines who gets a cram down? The bank or by a "special committee" from the involved state?
Depending on your voting district and party affiliation?
poic wrote:
Looks like we are dealing with angry drunk volker tonight instead of his more happy fellow persona.
Seven Samurai wrote:
SELECT TOP 1000 *
FROM Mortgages
ORDER BY pac_donations DESC
Merry Xmas cinco
say, wait a minute, who else would be nimrod?
you're not very good at this, nimrod
"say, wait a minute, who else would be nimrod? "
Beats me. Your guess is as good as mine.
The banks will be happy. Ecstatic in fact.
Consumers do the $1.25 deal or the banks do the litigation slow burn treatment. That's going to leave more people very, very unhappy.
At this point the banks are setting themselves up for some ugly populous revenge.
of course, you rush to the only refuge a scoundrel sans argument has available
Back from Mexico. Did you all at HCN save the world while I was gone? We were not in the warm part of Mexico but it was warmer than home.
The Canadian Snow Birds seemed to enjoy the warmth.
We got to stay in a "Ghost Resort" like the Chinese "Ghost Cities". We were pampered by the staff. We fell in love with a young woman on the staff who did everything: Dance, Sing, Baby Sit, Teach Aerobics, wait tables. Loreto needs to be on people's list of places to visit in Mexico. It is not for the party set but for us old ones seeking quiet and beautiful scenery it fit the bill. The town has the oldest mission in Baja and has an interesting history.
Now to get my fill of doom and gloom from HCN.
how much a night? per person or per room?
how was the food
HomeGnome wrote:
The holidays stress people out. Somehow, I don't think Jesus would be down with that.
please, scone, don't feed the myth
http://static02.mediaite.com/geekosystem/uploads/2011/12/IMG_6931.JPG.scaled1000.jpg
dilbert dogbert wrote:
Ohhh, Mexico (sung in my best James T voice....)
Speaking of doom, just listened to an NPR segment about a birding trip to the wilds of our Neighbor to the South, in search of the Imperial woodpecker.....the war on drugs has many collateral victems
dilbert dogbert wrote:
We were in a different area of Mexico a couple of weeks ago, same "ghost city / resort" thing. Felt a bit like the Twilight Zone.
In case you're wondering where I got that .jpg
This 22 Pound 47,000 Calorie Marzipan Pig Is Creepy | Geekosystem
volker the viking wrote:
I'll drink to that.
volker the viking wrote:
Eh?
km4 wrote:
Barbarian.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://kerfuffles.blogsome.com/images/sucklingpig_01.jpg&imgrefurl=http://kerfuffles.blogsome.com/2005/12/24/the-boars-head/&usg=__SGnD6w3W5xThF67Dm2X_Suv_Fos=&h=350&w=350&sz=124&hl=en&start=4&sig2=7-Cg7F1HXmHzeCxMC09OA
how can you feed the false assumption that anyone is drunk
no way a suave, erudite man of the world who has survived gunfire, great storms, and social upheaval would be so mundane as to be drunk on line
when volker show up, even Duke gets up and surrenders his seat with a courtly bow to his superior
volker the viking wrote:
Too much. It is the wife's time share or as some call them crime share. I think our out of pocket was 84 per day per room. We had the kids with us and filled a 3 BR unit. Very nice, clean and new.
Food was delicious. Funny that the restaurant featured Italian food. We had to order Mexican as a special for the next day.
The staff must have been bored out of their minds. There is not a thing to do for young people looking for action as Loreto is 20 miles away and is a quiet town.
justaskin wrote:
Yes I agree and quite disgusting !
volker the viking wrote:
bbl, gitrwwgkatw
Putting ornaments on the tree is like the four color map problem. Sooner or later, you get 2 of the same colors next to each other. Oops, glitter on the keyboard....
Ee, does that metric include jet fuel consumption? Is that relevant, in your opinion?
You mean I wasn't supposed to put that giant magnet on top of the hard drives?
I have degaussed so many hard drives I don't think I'll ever have any kids.
postlibertarian wrote:
How hard did you look? "The current and proposed FICA tax cuts don’t directly affect the long-term health of Social Security, because the revenue that normally flows direct to the Social Security Trust Fund is being reimbursed out of general revenue. But that so-called “hold harmless” provision now gives Social Security a direct role in rising deficits for the first time. Up until now opponents have sought to tie the program to the deficit by arguing that the Social Security Trust Fund is just a collection of worthless IOUs, but those arguments don’t hold water."
Would Obama’s payroll tax cut hurt Social Security? | Reuters Money
"Coupled with the payroll tax cut, the President has included in his tax compromise a provision that would reimburse the Social Security Trust Funds for the $112 billion in lost revenue stemming from the tax cut. These reimbursements would come from the general fund of the Treasury, and while that may seem to be superficially reassuring, changing Social Security’s funding in this manner hasn’t been fully thought through and in fact poses a serious threat to the program’s continued existence." NCPSSM: Policy Review: Payroll Tax Holiday
Dangerous game/tactic though, I think, as I suspect GOP & others next step is to halt reimbursement from the general fund. They are all really looking forward to dancing on FDR's grave while redirecting all SSA trust funds to Wall St. "retirement fund advisors" because privatization will somehow make all the difference in making adequate savings for retirement possible but via SS trust fund it's just not possible. Ignoring that SS claimed to be more than a "3rd leg of a stool" other 2, savings and a pension.
gabyjan wrote:
Right!
Q: Is it discriminatory to demand ID for purchase of liquor, cigarettes, firearms...
Complete BS. All this does is permit widespread voter fraud and makes a mockery of the election process.
Azurite, none of the money is real. Don't over think it.
bearly wrote:
You are an idiot.
Here's why:
In Richland County, the state’s second-most populous county, there are 11,087 nonwhite voters without ID, and 4,544 in Orangeburg County. According to AP, this means that half of those impacted in Richland — and 73 percent in Orangeburg –are non-white voters.
Study Shows South Carolina Voter ID Law Hits Minorities Hardest, Violating Voting Rights Act | ThinkProgress
So, we should give everybody a car loan, so then they'd have a license to use as an id! Job creation!
greenchutes wrote:
Yes, for the total - the breakout is strongly positive for jet fuel alone - all the distallates in that range (diesel etc. except home heating oil is way down).
It is more 'furcation - mogas strongly down, diesel et al up - total consumption down.
HomeGnome wrote:
St. Bernardus Christmas Ale here.
volker the viking wrote:
Happy Holidaze to all....
greenchutes wrote:
I disagree and dislike your condescending attitude.
IEA release today. Mogas demand doesn't look too good. I think EEcon is on it.
http://omrpublic.iea.org/demand/us_gs_ov.pdf
Actually is not the Federal "real id" act the driving force for a lot of this?
Impacts more than just voting, being able to get a job, travel, etc.
Eric wrote:
Cheers, Eric.
HomeGnome wrote:
The study "says" voters are disenfranchised, but not how...I'd suggest that they aren't as long as the card is free...and it is...
Total products demand doesn't look too good either.
http://omrpublic.iea.org/demand/us_tp_ov.pdf
But its better than 2009!
Look what you get for buying sorel boots for your wife or girlfriend for Christmas...looks like she's ready to rumble
http://www.dnafootwear.com/homepage/sorel-women-main.jpg
That means prices go up right?
Really it does here in Hawaii as the plants are not running at full capacity, and they have to charge more to make up the shortfall in revenues.
"Tomorrow I'm aiming "even Duke gets up and surrenders his seat with a courtly bow to his superior "
Next time raise the bar when you're trying to look superior.
km4 wrote:
Are mukluks a male fantasy? Who knew.
Kauai_Kahuna wrote:
Here in Flyover, Regular was 3.089 yesterday.
poic wrote:
Even I can get over that bar!
$3.45 here today at the "cheap" station. I believe that is easily a christmas weekend record.
scone wrote:
HeHe but looks like she means serious business
$2.99.9/ gallon regular unleaded.
I filled up yesterday and I think it was 3.89 or so.
Kauai_Kahuna wrote:
double or triple?
Still in the bitmines here so no
. 
I work for Ebenezer Scrooge.
HomeGnome wrote:
The St. B's ale is 22oz, 10% ABV.
Good thing I don't plan on going outside until Tuesday, if then.
JP wrote:
Bummer. The computer industry used to have lovely Friday beer blowouts.
scone wrote:
word.
Christmas Eve I'm planning on a 3000 foot vertical climb mountain bike ride
w00000000000000000000000000000000t !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yesterday was spent nursing Firerocks, really like it from a keg.
Eric wrote:
Eric, you should go for a walk everyday, dude.*
Seriously, I'm not snarking or bagging on you.
It's good for your mind and your body.
*Yes, I am aware of the lake effect.
poic wrote:
I'm planning to watch the NFL and drink until I pass out.
And after that nap, watch "A Christmas Story".
stocks: I see no good buys. Tough times for the value investor.
HomeGnome wrote:
We actually have a treadmill and elliptical in-house. We're planning on doing the "austerity plan" after New Years until the annual May vacation.
Kauai_Kahuna wrote:
Fire Rock Pale Ale | Kona Brewing Company
It's pretty good.
"I'm planning to watch the NFL and drink until I pass out."
Those shot glass drinks build up major biceps ya know?
What will be the air temp? And do you get to ride back down afterwards?
I stopped biking a month ago but since it hasn't gotten cold I think i should've just gotten some cold weather gear and kept biking. Fewer bugs flying in the mouth this time of year.
Eric wrote:
you'll put your eye out, kid.
12th Percentile wrote:
I think so too, 12th.
Kauai_Kahuna wrote:
A local refinery here is on order from corporate to reduce capacity. To prop up prices, presumably.
tomorrow is Christmas Eve. Geez...
Eric wrote:
Excellent.
Where are you planning on going next year?
HomeGnome wrote:
May is always Maui.
Rookie move on my part. This is my first year of biking. I've got a stairmaster though and have been climbing imaginary hills.
"What will be the air temp? And do you get to ride back down afterwards?"
It's going to be in the 50s most likely. I will wear my full length bike gloves for the way up and double socks.
It's actually 2000 feet of climbing from my house. The last major hill climb is probably 1000 or so feet. So I'll have to bomb down twice to the trail head.
The ride down is straight down hill and takes about 10 minutes and gets COLD around this time of the year.
Eric wrote:
I kinda figured...
More golf?
CR quotes TIME ( Henry Luce's rag ) on this ? Sigh.. it must be Xmas.
Time enough for Bahh Humbug on Sunday.
For now.. I'll let it go..
Eric wrote:
That reminds me, there's a Doctor Who Christmas Special this year! We should have a :tardis: in the conveyances section.
I'm back from skating, and we tried to score some Air Benjamins, but to no avail.
I think they were all pre-given out already...
12th Percentile wrote:
The greatest thing about a stairmaster is you don't spill your
It could have been worse, we might have had another sentiment thread or the like.
Well, how did they clear the snow off the pond? Did they use a zamboni?
Time to walk the
We're either going east to the park or west to the plaza.
I've been off of biking for almost two months until last week. I figured building a deck would be good exercise but am amazed how much my cardio suffered from that layoff. Pure pain on my first ride this week.
skk wrote:
Always good to practice cache and release, skk.
poic wrote:
Blame your own ass!
poic wrote:
That rocks. I'm hoping for a good 5mi run by the beach. :pose:
fvck you short shite.
Which way is the beach?
poic wrote:
Fvck you asshole!
poic wrote:
You were in the east bay iirc?
In your dreams. I don't do gnomes.
It wasn't all cleared off, just enough for me to look like Yo! Adriane when I wasn't falling on my arse
A good time was had by all...
12th Percentile wrote:
LOL.
YouTube - Frosty The Snowman Jimmy Durante Christmas Video
"You were in the east bay iirc? "
I'm near Sonoma. There's a couple of nice rides there. When I lived in the East Bay Mission Peak was my favorite vomit ride.
2000 feet of climbing in 2.75 miles, off-road.
Outsider wrote:
For me? Three blocks west.
HomeGnome wrote:
Or something that faintly resembles it, yes.
Thank you, unknown Chinese person, for making these pretty ornaments and (possibly toxic) glitter encrusted ribbons. Sincerely, a lazy decadent capitalist American.
LOL
Lance Armstrong: I Never Failed One Of Those Shitty, Easy-To-Fool Doping Tests | The Onion Sports Network
i feel love in this room, tonight
HomeGnome wrote:
Yer not kidding - in a late night thread I mentioned my travails with Dave&Busters in Denver - short version - they sold Boulder Beer's Hazed and Infused as Mojo beer 3 of 4 times, twice to me, once to my buddy over two days - Tue. Wed.
This despite me and my buddy saying - guys. I know Boulder Beer - I go to their microbrewery site - been going for 7 years I know this stuff - nope the server, bartender stuck to their guns.
So I was at Boulder Beer for lunch - I told the owner - he'll send a rep down to educate them in the next couple of weeks. I took a photo of what a mojo looks like and was getting ready to email it to Dave&Busters.. - they haven't got a email contact address - no really.. so I called their customer service #.. no pickup !
Sigh.. but its Xmas. we'll let it go.. till MONDAY.. well ok Tuesday - Monday is Boxing Day for me - another day for being naice.
Just for you scone
Chinese Factory Worker Can't Believe The Shit He Makes For Americans | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
For me? Three blocks west.
Okay JP, you're not from a beach community.
This is how the cool dudes do it. Remember this.
YouTube - The beach is that way
(sideways)
poic wrote:
"Not even the badly translated assembly instructions deter them."
Yeah! We're tough, we're strong, we don't read the frakking instructions anyway!
Poor Christchurch getting hammered again near Christmas from so many directions, which is nature's way of saying, maybe its time for the populace to move somewhere else, and pronto.
It really was a wonderful city...
Outsider wrote:
Maybe under enough years of your tutelage, I will shed an iota of my intrinsic dorkiness and exude coolness.
YouTube - Blues Brothers meet the Penguin
HomeGnome wrote:
When it first came out, I was 16 and raved about it to my parents. They rolled their eyes (what do 16 year olds know) but somehow went to see the film.
It turns out that they both went to Catholic high school in the 50s. This scene had them crying with laughter.
Edit: I don't think I ever noticed the guy being crucified in the background before.
"I hate Illinois
"
JP wrote:
Niiice. Redondo? Hermosa?
YouTube - Blues Brothers meet the Penguin
That is exactly what it feels like on this blog sometimes.
Outsider wrote:
We're on a mission from Gawd!
Santa Monica.
Well, Japan's out of the question.
I didn't realize the whole Ring of Fire thing.
shhhhh....
pavel is sleeping
Please god let this man live on..:
Prince Philip undergoes 'precautionary tests' after suffering chest pains - Telegraph
NSFW - please do not read further if.. well you've been warned.
He's my top pick for the ghoul pool for 2012.. We are STILL in 2011 damnit. Please.. live another 8 days willya ?
No we do not wish celebs dead - we only predict it.
there's no love lost between Phil the Greek and me of course. Him of the "gaffes" that to me read like.. i.e. well never mind.. its Xmas
Oh man, the dark chocolate chip/ sea salt cookies just went into the oven!!
CalculatedRisk wrote:
Regulators cave in to GOP demands on Volcker Rule - The Hill's On The Money
12/23/11 03:22 PM ET
"Two SEC commissioners said the comment period on the rule should be extended further.
SEC Commissioners Daniel Gallagher and Troy Paredes said “the 30-day comment period extension is insufficient given the complexities of the Volcker Rule proposal.”
In a letter sent to regulators charged with writing the rule, top Republicans on the House Financial Services Committee called for the delay this month. The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has called for a six-month comment period."
Juvenal Delinquent wrote:
O dear god.. you've forever corrupted this gorgeous ( to me ) Bollywood vid now :
YouTube - Papa Jag Jayega (Complete Video)
that lara dutta and deepika Padukone are really something.
Eric wrote:
Sounds good. I've got a growler of Barrier Morticia Russian Iimperial Stout 9.1% ABV. It should go good with the rib roast on Sunday.
Juvenal Delinquent wrote:
He sleeps with the angels.
HomeGnome wrote:
Sea salt? Recipe, please?
1000 leave for Australia every week - National - NZ Herald News
Its always been like this, 1-way migration down under.
NZ is awfully beautiful compared to Aussie, but Kiwis go where the money is...
scone wrote:
Adapted by Mrs. Gnome from The New Basics CookBook (Rosso and Lukins)
Y U have deathwish for me?
Ooooooh, I found the backwards duck in the red wagon ornament, all I need to do now is hook him/her to the fish angel, and we're go for liftoff! Wind the frog!
YouTube - Toy Story clip: "Wind the Frog!"
Wow. I mentioned I have 2 half sisters in/from Australia (one has moved out).
I heard about the big $$ with the mining jobs, but if I heard right, it's really dangerous work, as mining probably always is.
I wonder how Australia's economy will hold up with that many job seekers moving in. No wonder they're having a housing bubble.
Might make real estate in NZ a little cheaper.
scone wrote:
Real men never ask for driving directions, read assembly/hot to use instructions, or know what the answer is to the female 'does this dress make my ass look fat' question.
scone wrote:
scone - have you tried this?
Lindt Excellence A Touch of Sea Salt Dark Chocolate Bar, 3.5-Ounce Packages (Pack of 12): Amazon.com: Grocery & Gourmet Food
Both Aussie and NZ have housing bubbles that would make ours blush, because an awful lot of the USA didn't play along so much, but down under, damn near every home in both countries seemed to be in play...
The crash when it eventually happens, will be epic.
poic quoted:
Chinese Factory Worker Can't Believe The Shit He Makes For Americans | The Onion - America's Finest News Source
FENGHUA, CHINA—"Chen Hsien, an employee of Fenghua Ningbo Plastic Works Ltd., a plastics factory that manufactures lightweight household items for Western markets, expressed his disbelief Monday over the "sheer amount of shit Americans will buy."
"Often, when we're assigned a new order for, say, 'salad shooters,' I will say to myself, 'There's no way that anyone will ever buy these,'" Chen said during his lunch break in an open-air courtyard. "One month later, we will receive an order for the same product, but three times the quantity. How can anyone have a need for such useless shit?
Chen, 23, who has worked as an injection-mold operator at the factory since it opened in 1996, said he frequently asks himself these questions during his workweek, which exceeds 60 hours and earns him the equivalent of $21."
HomeGnome wrote:
Is that how she turned you into a gnome?! She's a "wise woman" then. I see.
Mike in Long Island wrote:
Mike, that is the chocolate that Mrs. Gnome uses!
scone wrote:
No possibly about it....
Interesting recent research (not Suzanne's) seems to show that brown paper wrapped prezzies are better received than cadmium/chromium/who-knows-ium wrapped items..
Rickkk wrote:
I guess that's better than sleeping with the fishes.
skk wrote:
serves you right for setting foot in that hell-hole....probably had a gimme cap turned backwards on yer noggin
Mike in Long Island wrote:
No, but I'll certainly look for it. I also like chocolate with chili in it-- Mayan style. Yum!
Wonder if escapees from Japan contribute to that much.
If everyone's leaving NZ and there are issues now with so many earthquakes, surely their housing market will be affected.
http://www.alibaba.com/manufacturers/lead-free-candle-wicks-manufacturer.html
Lead free candle wick manufacturers - China
I made the mistake of going to IHOP as it was the closest thing for eats in the midst of a snowstorm here, and you'd have thought I went to the Top Ramen restaurant, judging from the grief counselling session rendered here on me.
I guess that's better than sleeping with the fishes.
Truth be told, I don't think either of those are a great idea.
HomeGnome wrote:
That stuff is like crack - only more addictive. My wife will be sorely disappointed if Santa doesn't leave some chocolate in her stocking - I'm thinking the Godiva dark chocolate truffles Santa is leaving for her will make her happy.
Rickkk wrote:
And heartily dreams of sending some of us to sleep with the fishes....
Man, I'm gonna send my sister over to have some words with you, speedy
IHOP is instant diabetes, we're just trying to help.
I know I know its Xmas.. but I can't resist:
Prince Philip undergoes 'precautionary tests' after suffering chest pains - Telegraph
To the lexicon of hand-jive, Wiggling your walrus, Flogging the eggman. we add.
Playing polo
Separately, wot, y'all thought that song " I am the eggman, I am the walrus" by the Beatles was about.. acid trips and Lewis Carroll ? Jeez..
I highly recommend...
Lindt Excellence Orange Intense Chocolate Reviews Australia www.lindt.com
The one and only reason for bipartisan agreements is
The key to NZ real estate is the idea that most of the NZ banks are owned by larger Aussie concerns, so they are esssentially tied at the hip financially with the export mineral biz to China being the catalyst that made it go up. They'll topple together more than likely.
Juvenal Delinquent wrote:
It has definitely started. They've reached the "nothing is selling, but sellers aren't lowering their prices" moment.
REBear wrote:
Lindt is headquartered in NH, you know.
Oh gawd, chocolate chip cookies still hot from the oven....
We went to a nice Italian restaurant last night to even things out a bit, I trust that meets your criteria on where I should be dining?
Well, scratch them off the retirement fantasy then. They never wanted us anyway. (NZ I mean)
Mike in Long Island wrote:
Sirius Icelandic chocolate is (maybe was) a screaming buy.....but hoodathunk...from Iceland....no,no fishy taste either....
justaskin wrote:
"Skeptical scrutiny is the means, in both science and religion, by which deep insights can be winnowed from deep nonsense."
Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996)
YouTube - relax frankie goes to hollywood
I just posted a music recommendation: Noel: Christmas at King's
NZ$700k just ok homes in a small country where 1,000 people are leaving a week seems like you might eventually run out of players, no?
Did they serve vegetables? Non-overcooked?
Did you or did you not order the chocolate chip pancakes topped with dyed red strawberries and whipped cream? Eh?
My favorite line in that article. Subtle. But since the article came out in 2005, it implies he started working there at 14.
Nobody goes to IHOP for pancakes, that'd be so obvious.
There appears to be a reason for that. It would be Elvis' dream. No
s required. (Nature does it for you.)
They have an ongoing problem with iffy construction resulting in leaky roofs, as an added bonus.
YouTube - Pachelbel Canon in D (the ultimate best version)
YouTube - pachelbel's Canon in D--Soothing music(the best version)
Well, off to the health club.
Merry Christmas (regardless of your preferred Deity or lack thereof) and may Santa Bring you the thing you've most often wished for this year (unless it affects my Zombie bank - Yo Santa, remember what we told ya: keep ho-ho-ho'ing and the elf doesn't get hurt).
Juvenal Delinquent wrote:
Depends if the celebrities and ferners keep buying up land. But, eventually reality will happen.
YouTube - pachelbel's Canon in D--Soothing music(the best version)
I've been looking for that! I thought it was Vivaldi. No wonder I couldn't find it. Thx.
[I see they were contemporaries, altho different countries of origin]
Juvenal Delinquent wrote:
You went for the International Houses?
Outsider wrote:
there are ( or were ) lines outside IHOP on a Sunday for breakfast - really.. IHOP?!?! - trying to recall which mall I used to see it at regularly as I did my Sunday bike ride.. nahh its not coming to me - somewhere in LA..
Yet yet.. I look down my nose on this - but on a 7 day trip thru the South West with 2 aunts, 2 uncles, 2 her-parents 1 grandma from India and little ole' us two and I'm despairing of finding places that they could eat at happily when on the road outside of major conurbations - IHOP !
Mann they just loved those "pancakes" - and all the sweet syrup.. they were all over it..
Sigh..
Kauai_Kahuna wrote:
Not here in ID. Gas is now $3.129 a gallon down $.23 since 12/3/2011.
"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has."
Margaret Mead (1901 - 1978)
Anyway, who'd have thought that in a country that represents what we were like maybe 50 yrs. ago (right?) their construction quality would be more like our 2000s.
skk wrote:
YES! Was talking with a French family last summer who spent two weeks in Florida doing the Harry Potter Disneyland thing. They loved the pancakes. From listening to them I think they liked the pancakes and American breakfasts more than any other part of the trip. Sometimes they'd eat two breakfasts a day.
Mann they just loved those "pancakes" - and all the sweet syrup.. they were all over it.
That's the thing. It's a GREAT place - if you're about 20. Any older than that and it seriously affects your life span.
Okay, no more hating on IHOP. I love IHOP. But I stay far away from it.
Juvenal Delinquent wrote:
Does anybody with functioning tastebuds go to IHOP? Poorest quality food on the planet.
Those who didn't play mortgage roulette as a consolation prize get a certificate for a small Slurpee (your choice of flavor) and a pack of unfiltered Camels.
Lobbyist Ben Dover wrote:
could be worth a lot of money someday
Outsider wrote:
People bad mouth our great and glorious nation but when you talk to ferners they absolutely love some of the MOST tacky and obnoxious aspects of our culture. The hugeness of the cities, houses, roads, and parting lots, the simulated but highly addictive near food, the bright lights, the waste.... it's glorious. Everybody want to be a millionaire (in 1960's dollars) in America. So, it might be tacky and obnoxious but 7 billion people can't be wrong for coveting it and those who created must be geniuses for doing so.
Ho Ho HO!!! Merry Christmas from all of us at my Zombie bank.
In ad for newsletter, Ron Paul forecast race war
| Reuters
PDF of Ron Paul's black- jew- and gay-bashing letter:
http://graphics.thomsonreuters.com/11/12/Solicitation2.pdf
I guess its libertarian as long as you discriminate against all minorities equally...
volker the viking wrote:
If by a Lucky Strike; I'd be Pall Mall'd.
Lobbyist Ben Dover wrote:
That's what I used to smoke. Rolled up the left sleeve of my white Hanes T-shirt, lit with a Zippo pulled out of my American 501s. It was a whole retro greaser look.
NOTaREALmerican wrote:
You're believing your own bullshit.
CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
DECEMBER 24-25, 2011
Thud of the Jackboot
"Too bad Kim Jong-il kicked the bucket last weekend. If the divine hand that laid low the North Korean leader had held off for a week or so, Kim would have been sustained by the news that President Obama is signing into law a bill that puts the United States not immeasurably far from the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea in contempt of constitutional protections for its citizens, or constitutional restraints upon criminal behavior sanctioned by the state.
At least the DPRK doesn’t trumpet its status as the last best sanctuary of liberty. American politicians, starting with the president, do little else.
A couple of months ago came a mile marker in America’s steady slide downhill towards the status of a Banana Republic, with Obama’s assertion that he has the right as president to order secretly the assassination, without trial, of a US citizen he deems to be working with terrorists. This followed his betrayal in 2009 of his pledge to end the indefinite imprisonment without charges or trial of prisoners in Guantanamo.
Now, after months of declaring that he would veto such legislation, Obama has now crumbled and will soon sign a monstrosity called the Levin/McCain detention bill, named for its two senatorial sponsors, Carl Levin and John McCain. It’s snugged into the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act.
The detention bill mandates – don’t glide too easily past that word - that all accused terrorists be indefinitely imprisoned by the military rather than in the civilian court system; this includes US citizens within the borders of the United States..."
skk wrote:
[fill in slitty-eyes, bongo-bongo quip here]
NOTaREALmerican wrote:
it will be the ultimate demise of free people everywhere
Rickkk wrote:
I never smoked. Spent my money on testing car parts and scorched my lungs with exhaust fumes.
scone wrote:
with just a schosch more room in the seat
YouTube - The Holly and The Ivy - Westminster Abbey Choir
HomeGnome wrote:
Pogo (comic strip) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
"We have met the enemy and he is us."
Cinco-X wrote:
u2 have a fun time.
https://twitter.com/RP_Newsletter
Hilarious spoof of Ron Paul newsletter.
Happy Holidaze...see ya' in a week or two....
Cinco! You lucky dog. Stay in touch.
"I made the mistake of going to IHOP as it was the closest thing for eats in the midst of a snowstorm here, and you'd have thought I went to the Top Ramen restaurant, judging from the grief counselling session rendered here on me. "
I went to the one in SF after we moved up there. Got a lot of grief from my wife.
You'd think she'd be used to it by now after I ordered Sweet and Sour Pork.
Ordering Sweet and Sour Pork == Asian
What about crab rangoons? Do they snicker behind your back when you order crab rangoons? Those things are highly addictive.
I did not write that letter.
Ron Paul, 12/22/11: "I didn't read them at the time... on Twitpic
At least Clinton lied about sexy fun time.
"What about crab rangoons? Do they snicker behind your back when you order crab rangoons? Those things are highly addictive. "
I think she'd put a "Kick me" sign on my butt if I ordered those.
Gnomester! Sped furiously over one of your kayaking streams at dawn this morning.
Becoming an annual moment - pass through Columbia, think of HomeGnome.
Overreaction on the part of the nervous nellies. Did the Southern Pacific railroad being declared a person affect anybody for 50 or 60 years? No, and this won't either. We'll all be dead.
Moral Hazard and his pal Slipper Slope aren't real. Remember, as long as it's funding with a trust fund it not socialism just as a bill passed overwhelmingly by real Red Team conservatives AND real Blue Team liberals means it can't possibly affect our freedom loving eagles and slow motion flags. We must keep perspective. Remember, in great and glorious words of the "conservative" and liberals who have gone before us: It's not socialism, it's an investment in our children's FUTURE!
burnside wrote:
I-26?
I-77.
And you can't have a Brit Christmas without Druid and Solstice themes:
YouTube - Jethro Tull - Ring Out Solstice Bells
burnside wrote:
I would guess the Congaree River then.
Nice flatwater.
Thanks for the thoughts burnside.
May you and yours find peace and happiness.
Ho Ho HO!!!
(Cue: the Zombie bonus music).
May all your Student Loans be payed off with inflating real wages. Ho Ho HO HO!!! Merry Christmas
poic quoted:
Kitchen Nightmares - Full Episodes and Clips streaming online - Hulu
I highly recomend the burger kitchen episode.
Juvenal Delinquent wrote:
How many real Italians work there?
Ron Paul’s story changes on racial comments | Iowa Caucuses
Rickkk wrote:
How many real IHOpians work there?
MERRY XMAS EVERYONE!!
You all are making me hungry.
I've had a hankering for Indian food lately.
Maybe sometime next week.
It's stuffed peppers tonight, if the Outfit ever gets back from the new Sherlock Holmes movie.
poic wrote:
Happy Kwanzaa!
Outsider wrote:
tasty.
rich wrote:
Does real Italians means Italians from Italy or also include Italian-Americans? Just wondering. Town I grew up in (mostly) has lots of Italian Americans & when we moved there had an Italian baker& several "Italian" restaurants & still does have 3-4 Italian restaurants but they're all run by second generation or later US citizens.
"It's stuffed peppers tonight, "
Just make sure not to fluff the covers tonight :penguin:
burnside wrote:
go to IHOP, purge
volker the viking wrote:
well sprayed, bro.
Well sprayed.
Thanks for painting the bowl, dude!
50 Ron Paul newsletters scanned:
Et tu, Mr. Destructo?: Game Over: Scans of Over 50 Ron Paul Newsletters
I'm 110 lbs. Food just isn't a big part of my life. Especially cookies.
thanks for holding my hair
HomeGnome wrote:
and a Merry Festivus to you to sir.
I was in the middle of one of the best Christmas movies last night, Scarface. Alas sleep took me. I will try to finish it now.
Thanks, HG. Am now peering out on the Kanawha.
Chilly here.